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A powerful 8th-level mind-affecting spell, no other dragon has it. Yeah, let's give it to the jade.

I'll see which shaman domains feel like counterparts to cleric domains we'll assign to the jade dragon, that way it will still retain the feel. I noticed that beguile has some effects in common with enthrall .

Edit: Added OA options Hey, Shade, it's been just over a year since you started this thread—that's a milestone already, and we're still at it! :cool: I can't help it, I really do want to make the jade dragon as oriental as possible, so here goes. In an OA campaign, a jade dragon can plane...

About plane shift… it is Su for gem dragons but Sp for lung dragons. Since the jade dragon is an oriental relative of a gem dragon, which fits it better? And since it can already blink to the Ethereal Plane, should we restrict the planes it can shift to? There's also shout and greater shout for...

So we have the 3e plane shift instead of the 2e blink, and the arcane sculpt sound for the psionic control sound. The former is an homage to gem dragons, and the latter makes it a bit more like the emerald dragon. Sounds good.

If it's sonic (which might not be necessary because a mental voice doesn't sound sonic to me—pun intended) since it is language-dependent this places a balancing limit on the ability.

Weird critter; but then it's an aberration. Say, if a creature's Wis (or Cha) drops to 0, isn't it treated as an object, but then the Drac-o-Lantern is still able to manipulate it?

Since the jade dragon is an Oriental dragon, we could mine the lung dragons for inspiration as well. Blink is reminiscent of lung dragon's plane shift ability, and telepathy to detect thoughts, for example. The beguile ability could be acquired the same age as frightful presence, since both...

The Fortitude save for unconsciousness and deafness works. As for the charm effect, since the dragon has to talk, it effectively has a verbal component and won't work in a silenced area.

I just got back from a 2-1/2 week marine geological expedition. I'll give it a look-over soon.

Daphoenodon was to Amphicyon as ponies or donkeys are to horses, sort of. We can compare those equine stats to how to extrapolate.

Well, if we're talking about illusions, the aboleth and blue dragon have illusory spell-like abilities we can use for comparison. I'm a bit surprised the ectoplasmic dragon isn't more like the planar dragons (it is extraplanar in origin), otherwise it wouldn't have psion manifesting levels but...

Yup, I'm for it too.

Monster Manual II banshee—anything from classic mythology has to be in catoblepas dinosaurs dire animals gem dragons (but only when the psionic rules are out) grell neogi—why are their umber hulk servitors core when they aren't Fiend Folio shedu Manual of the Planes dao and marid—don't...

False vision—goes well with its knack for illusion spells. Deep slumber sounds good too.

The scorpions per se didn't swim, but their gigantic eurypterid cousins did. I'm glad you liked it. :cool:

Hey! How did I miss this thread dripping with dragons? :cool: Nice work Freyar, and thanks for the ref to my work. I've got some minor edits to upload in a few hours. Are you going to do the arcane dragons (hex and tome), lung dragons, missing chromatics (orange, purple, yellow), and ferrous...

Arrgh! Sardior of the gem dragons gets no respect! :( ;)

Which of Io's other children are you talking about? And Tiamat is the name of a goddess, so why strip her godhood? Oh wait, Dagon is the name of a Philistine god, but he's just an obyrith demon in the game. Orcus is the name of a Roman god, but he's just a tanar'ri demon in the game. So if...

I've been a software beta-tester and signed an NDA, I recall not telling outsiders what exactly it is I was testing (except my folks who are not into PC's anyway); besides, in my country very few people use that software. If WotC consider playtesters outside N America, I'd love to be one.