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That's good :D But someone in another thread had asked, "If d20 (or D&D) isn't your system, what are you doing here?" and wondered how many people fit that bill. ;)

Err, your vote has been cast and noted? (Psst. Who is this guy, and why does he think he's in charge? That's just weird, man.)

Hmm. Even with this few votes, it's easy to predict where this will end up ;) But the point is, there are people who frequent these boards who do not consider (A)(O)D&D or d20 to be their primary system.

Nice pick on an exaggeration. So, you drew dungeon rooms on a battlemat at 10' to the inch? How did you show people fighting side by side? Doesn't flush. Different argument, different system. AD&D 1st Editon is the topic in this sub-thread. And the usefulness of being able to move 60 feet...

Don't need to. I read it when it came out, and over and over for years after that. Semantics? If that's what you want to call it, fine. :lol:

1. Never said I didn't use movement. Would have made it hard to get to the monsters. But round-to-round movement was never a tactical factor because of lack of need, when you could walk practically the length of the dungeon in one round. 2. I'm not going to go back through the posts, because it...

It's becaused no one I ever ran into all those years used segments that much, only for spellcasting. It was rounds. And in a round, your average thief or wizard (unencumbered for obvious reasons) could move 2 FEET on the battlemat in a round. No use there. And yes, it was 5' on the battlemat...

And? What he was talking about was what you will be paying for the book, not what WOTC profits are. The middle man takes his cut.

As suggested in another thread, let's find out who plays what here on enworld. This is meant to be a simple poll, as we all know enworld is supposed to be primarily a d20 site.

Someone asked what businesses besides gaming rely on the kindness (or whatever) of their customers? Radio Controled Modling Model Trains Just to name two. These same kind of conversations come up with them all the time. See my post above.

While you may be frustrating to argue with sometimes, you're much more civil about it than I am. ;) Keeping your cool is a good trait.

Very well put. I think that balances both sides of this argument quite well, and even may point to the fact that there shouldn't be an argument to begin with. :cool:

When confronted with this question, I like to use something a guy told me long ago about RC planes and cars. You can always get a plane or car kit cheaper from Tower Hobbies (catalog before the 'net, web site now on the 'net). You can even order parts. But, if you get ready to go fly in the...

Excellent. You just proved my point. So, either a 1" tall mini of a fighter meant that the fighter was 10' tall (he should have been a basketball player), or 1" on the battlemat did not equal 1" in the rules. I'm glad to see we are in agreement.

I did it exactly once, at a con. I'm not even sure what system it was, but it was fantasy. It was kind of fun, actually. But after hearing horror stories from so many people about the kind of scum that shows up to most LARPs, I have zero interest in continuing. And to all those who will post...

So, what you're saying with that, is a mini of a fighter, at 1" tall, was 10' tall. Big guy. Oh, and good job addressing the actual rules I was referring to. Since you didn't, then this particular topic is resolved. No tactical movement rules in AD&D 1st Edition.

No, it didn't. 1" = 10' indoors, 1" = 10 yards outdoors. It was a SCALE, nothing about a battle mat. And, if you did use 1" = 10' on a battlemat, you couldn't use miniatures, because you couldn't have people side by side in a 10' corridor. I don't give a crap what system you play NOW, I played...

Tee-hee. 10 second round. Wow. 1st Edtion AD&D, bub. 1 minute rounds. And the inches in 1st Edition AD&D had absolutely nothing to do with a battle mat. Lookit the @#$% up.

Movement rate for unencumbered human = 12" Converting for indoor movement = 120 feet Converting for battlemat scale of 1 square = 5' (and it was, or you could never stand side by side in a 10' square) = 24" 24" = 2 feet of movement per round. Check your battlemat. Average dungeon room = 30'...

Well, ya'll have fun. Work's over, and I am... outta here. :D