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Give me ways to get extra feats must have 5 cleric levels, level 6 ECL total (so 1 level to play with) looking for a way to pick up an extra metamagic feat So far I've come up with... 1. Racial - Human 2. Flaw - Unearthed Arcana The reason being is I want to build this character. 18 charisma...

As I tell everyone looking at fighter/rogue, have you looked at scout?

Something to think about as well would be... improved sunder power attack combat brute improved bull rush shock trooper pushback (or knockback if you are goliath/large) greater sunder Gives you a lot of control in combat with pushbacks/bullrushes/sunders and charging. +2 hitroll / +20 damage...

Ya but just 'use warforged stats' is kind of a bland answer..

Well thats not the vibe I was getting, since earlier he was trying to declare that it would be interperted to stop magic missle, since that is a 'ranged attack'

Aye an awakened animated object would be the best way to go about doing this. www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/animatedObject.htm www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/awaken.htm This would be an example of a tiny doll PC. Standard point distribution with following modifiers Size: Tiny (with appropriate...

Well he's trying to say that all spells are considered ranged attacks because the feat makes an exclusion to affect spells with a touch attack. And I am trying to say, no it doesnt have any impact on the glossary terms definition, the feat just allows it to affect more than the standard definition.

No, the fact is that the parenthetical clause makes only ONE exception to the glossary term. That does not give you the right to ignore the glossary definition entirely, it just allows you to ignore the glossary definition in ONE instance. Ranged touch attacks. Thanks, drive on through.

Yes

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The question is, if there was a feat that just said.. Gain +10 movement Would you take it? If so, take the trait and improved toughness. If not, its doubtful you're that interested.

Well, ok Hypersmurf, I wont argue with you anymore, apparently your version of the english language determines that parentheses are not inclusive punctual statements but defining punctual statements, so for the sake of back and forth banter or me pulling out 3 pages of grammatical definitions...

Giving up a familiar is worth a feat, I see no problem with it. Please note, none of my NPC casters have familiars, therefor they all have one extra feat. Theres a lot more of them than you, thats a lot of feats :)

*sighs* Its things like that, that make me happy I play with rules lawyers, they may try to get the best of me.. but they do so by explicitly following the rules to the letter, rather than assuming that something is possible because the skill does not say it is not.

No incorrect, exceptional deflection does not includ spells requiring a ranged touch attack into the realm of 'ranged attacks', it merely includes it into the realm of things you can deflect. At no point in its entire statement does it say, Which will also be classified as a ranged attack and...

You can submit it through the website to cust serv, but the feat is not badly worded, the desire to abuse semantics to bend rules is the issue. WoTC cant change that.

The build is hardly highly specialized, it uses energy aff/subs to help its spellset overcome common energy resistances. And it houses an array of metamagic effects. It is a common blaster mage with one feat of specialization which happens to be a very nice feat, but yes this build could get...

No for the purpose of exceptional deflection scorching ray is still a spell requiring a ranged touch attack. At no point does it reclassify the spell, it only includes it under the effects.

Ok well, the 15th wizard was a little sub-op and the wizard does get bonus feats so lets compare a 7 feated wizard versus 4 feated psion, I'll use your psion example who did 365 versatile damage in 40' radius. (albeit the radius isnt that important as the damage is) Feats WBF: Arcane Thesis...

I would rule that it supresses the doorway for a period of time equal to a magical item.