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  1. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball/Lightning Bolt vs Chromatic Orb?

    Shouldn't 18 vs +3 Enemy Dex save be 75% fail rate instead of 70% then? EDIT: Nevermind. Saves are not attacks. Enemy meeting the DC is bad state for player, unlike attack rolls. Thanks. I think I've figured it out but there might be a better way. Essentially for every attack but your...
  2. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Ranged Builds Thread

    Yea. It's got me to thinking about how nice a Halbred would be on this kind of Paladin. Lower DPR that Maul but things like wrathful smite with reach seem really nice. Not really for the ranged build thread though, but I think there's alot of unexplored potential for me there. Take your...
  3. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball/Lightning Bolt vs Chromatic Orb?

    I think I can have reasonable success on solving seeking or elemental adept. I don't know that I'll solve for Empower CO any time soon.
  4. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball/Lightning Bolt vs Chromatic Orb?

    For level 1 CO Unless you already have a bounce reroll any damage die under average, including both. On the bounce reroll any damage die under average. For level 2 CO It's already getting less clear. Computing the reroll chance isn't so bad. You want to reroll at least 2 dice if you don't...
  5. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball/Lightning Bolt vs Chromatic Orb?

    Then this is going to be a mess to calculate. We must first determine the optimal algorithm to use the rerolls. Like if the first attack doesn't bounce how many dice should i reroll there? All? 3? What about if the 3rd of 5 potential attacks doesn't bounce, should i go ahead and use the...
  6. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Ranged Builds Thread

    No, but if your DM allows it then go for it. My assumption is generally that he will not, either because the DM doesn't believe it's RAW or because the DM thinks it's stupid that it is RAW or because he has his own magic item crafting system that doesn't allow that, etc. If it's allowed...
  7. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Ranged Builds Thread

    If you want to do damage I don't think web is worth it. Not attacking on the turn you cast it, along with no guarantees about retraining anyone, along with so many paths for allies to get advantage on attacks tends to make it much less beneficial. In 2014 you could about assume martials...
  8. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball/Lightning Bolt vs Chromatic Orb?

    Question on Empower with Chromatic Orb Do the number of dice you can reroll carry over to the next attack it makes if unused, or can they only be used on the current attacks damage roll of the spell?
  9. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball/Lightning Bolt vs Chromatic Orb?

    A mook with 50 hp can be kill edon a failed save to a 10d6 fireball, dragon sorc +5 damage and empower. It won't happen all the time, but it's not a particularly low chance of occurring either. Average damage would be 47. Slightly above average rolls and you've achieved killing the 50 hp foe...
  10. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball/Lightning Bolt vs Chromatic Orb?

    @Kinematics Special Request can you add a line for chromatic orb with Elemental Adept Feat and explain your calculation. I've went mind blank on that one as well.
  11. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball/Lightning Bolt vs Chromatic Orb?

    Empower on 10d8 Chain Lightning with 5 cha mod is +8.77 Damage. *Note: for my earlier fireball estimates I had an error on spread sheet. They were actually a bit higher. For the 10d6 fireball it should actually be +6.57 Damage.
  12. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball/Lightning Bolt vs Chromatic Orb?

    I've adjusted your fireball numbers to more accurately account for the Empower Charisma mod limitation on rerolls. Level CastFireballw/Empower% Gain 10.000.000% 20.000.000% 395.20114.66120% 4133.88160.23120% 5178.50212.04119% 6229.08269.89118% Not very large differences...
  13. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball/Lightning Bolt vs Chromatic Orb?

    1. What spell DC were you using for fireball? 17? 2. How are you calculating seeking and empower for Chromatic Orb. I've been trying to think that one through. And for seeking are you assuming only a single of the attacks can be rerolled?
  14. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball/Lightning Bolt vs Chromatic Orb?

    This is not technically true. If you could reroll any number of dice that’s what it would come out to, but since you cannot then it won’t reach that potential max. Consider the 2 cases where you could reroll any dice and you had 1 roll below 3 and the other where you had 9 rolls below 3. That...
  15. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball/Lightning Bolt vs Chromatic Orb?

    It should be slightly better for the bounce than adding an additional dice by upscaling the spell, right?
  16. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Ranged Builds Thread

    Straight Fighter it would, but if you want damage early you still pretty much go battlemaster. I should note that for battlemaster I'm only including the d8 damage manuever dice in calculations (and not saving them for crits) because I think menacing is highly worth it on an archer and timing...
  17. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Is it possible to balance the six abilities?

    To me the issue here is plain as day. D&D started with 6 abilities. You remapped those to 4. Of course you can say everything in D&D corresponds to those 4 simply due to your remapping. Couple that with the fact that the game was created with those 6 abilities in mind so of course...
  18. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball/Lightning Bolt vs Chromatic Orb?

    I've calculated Empowered for fireball. Using +5 Charisma and before accuracy is considered. The 8d6 version is + 4.1 Damage The 9d6 version is +4.8 Damage The 10d6 version is +5.5 Damage The 11d6 version is +6.1 Damage If we add these numbers to the fireball damage from evilbob's post above...
  19. FrogReaver

    D&D 5E (2024) Fireball/Lightning Bolt vs Chromatic Orb?

    For Chromatic Orb, would elemental adept increase the bounce rate?
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