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3E kept the basic classes, races, and terminology, but, among other changes, introduced the D20 mechanic and a more complex combat system. It relaxed rules for racial- and multi-classing, introduced a formal and consistent skills system and used a "modular" system for magic items. From what...

But the changes between AD&D and 3E were far greater than the forecast shift from 3E to 4E. The system isn't being overhauled, just updated.

Good points, but when I hear "halfling", I immediately think of hobbits, and not feeble, bastardised kender elflings. Not that I'm biased at all. However, even a gangly oran-utang woudn't have a strength score greater than 8. I calculated that when I offered to fight one for cash, but the zoo...

Forgive the stereotype, but I can't imagine 75% of a nerd, RPing community not having internet access. I would suggest that it's either an exceptional case, or that the LGS owner is mistaken.

It's a cover. The classes will include "fighting man", "halfling", and "elf", D4 hitpoints will stay, and grognards will rise up and declare a new world order. www.theonion.com/content/node/29464

Wrong forum, my friend! Ask the mods to shift it to the General RPG forum. You'll get much better feedback there. I'm an aspiring convert: I have the C&C books and we've run a couple of experimental sessions, but my group is a little hesitant to drop D&D. We'll decide when 4E comes out. For...

I mentioned it in that thread because some WotC staff post here in response to assertions or speculations on the boards here, which suggests they're keeping an eye on the reaction to the news they're releasing. How much it affects their decisions is another matter. Opinion is usually divided...

Ah, that is good. I've never really looked into Shadowrun - cyberpunk was never to my taste - but my tastes are changing. Thanks.

I see. Post #97 doesn't exist. Now that that's cleared up, good luck to everyone with Eberron, whatever they like or dislike about it. Over and out.

Me also.

No, it bothers me that small races can have a strength score above about 8. No, because it doesn't flagrantly violate the natural laws the game world assumes elsewhere. Ah, well where is the line drawn in that case? Anything can be excused by saying it's fantasy, but my taste for fantasy...

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Of course not. A small constitution penalty is appropriate for a race which is human-sized but often slimmer and frailer. Having a 3-foot-tall fellow with the strength of a heavyweight boxer is pushing the envelope, though.

I've addressed that quite enough, and for the last time. Not at all. My thoughts on Eberron had developed long before I even realised that C&C didn't mean Call of Cthulu! Besides, I would rather have a well-supported, professionally-produced version of D&D which supports a medium-power...

I wonder, also, how much tweaking is based on community feedback. They pay attention to what's said on message boards.

Those, plus it seems like it will be more "handy" - no referring to books and tables every time a character so much as sneezes. I hope.

I agree with Rechan, mostly, but already I weep when I see halfling PCs with 12+ strength. It puts another nail into the coffin of verisimilitude.

Ny wish for the new iconics is to have names which sound original and individual, and not like two randomly-selected syllables thrown together.

I want to incorporate them into a near-future apocalypse scenario (2015-2030), so I can't go too far ahead with technology or mutations. Also, I want to include magic in the campaign and preserve some sort of alien-ness in the non-human characters. The shadowkind model from Urban Arcana is...

Me too. Illumians are more of a last-minute creation to fill a book and continue a revenue stream than a considered race.