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I have been doing this wrong forever. Thanks for clearing that up.

Caliban--- Wow, my words taste yummy! ;)

Besides the fact that the paladin is going to fail the initial Spot and Listen checks in the first place...

I have no problem with this. That's not a kink, it's a feature. Divine insight and all of that. (Besides, taking LR is a suboptimal choice most of the time. What paladin in their right mind is going to take that feat?) The L6 Rogue is going to have LR, a 16 Dex, Gloves of Dex +2, and a ring of...

I'm going to go out on a limb and disagree with Caliban here. Putting spikes on a shield turns your entire shield into a martial piercing weapon. (pg. 106 PHB) [B] I interpreted that to mean that from now on, your shield is treated as a weapon for all intents and purposes. Meaning: now you...

I don't believe in proper spelling. I am the master of words; words are not the masters of me. ;)

Aren't there any good books coming out so we can argue about something...well...substanstial? ;)

Armor of Command? That's a +1 Mithral Buckler of Command to you, buddy... ;)

Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention Use Magic Device. Yummy.

I'm going to suggest something completely different: Don't bother with Move Silently and Hide. Did that get your attention? Neat. I far prefer playing rogues with Disable Device, Search, Spot, Listen, Tumble, Open Locks, and all of the Charisma skills. Bluff, Intimidate, Gather Information...

Here is an oddball idea: Heightened (8th level) Sanctuary + SF/GSF (abjuration) That's a Will save DC 22+Wis modifier in order to attack the clerics. (Which is probably a bad save for your PCs.) Then just summon a bunch of creatures for about 5 minutes. Should give your players the...

Re: Re: Re: Re: The best thing about sorcerers... No, actually, I don't. (DR sucks, nor do I have millions of GMWed shuriken.) I just got it, the spell, anyway. I'm planning on using it to pick up creatures, hold them, and then intimidate the hee-bee-jee-bees out of them.

Re: Re: The best thing about sorcerers... Then we are not in agreement. You should play wizards. I should play sorcerers. All is well. [B] 1) Read Hypersmurf's post. 2) I really don't think it's as desperate of a situation as you are turning it into. So what if a sorcerer is not as...

We threatened our last DM that if she TPWed us, we'd all come back as bards and form an adventuring band.

I'll show you my Nerf Crotch Rocket, right here buddy... ---Concrete "where the heck is hong when you need him?" Buddha

I'll send you a copy of that memo...

What kinks? Initiative was lame beforehand. Now it's gravy. Little old ladies and babies should not be playing this game in the first place. Trendsetters do not sit around collecting dust waiting for oblivion. We yoink with impertinence and impatience! Ole!

The dying rules suck for two reasons: 1) The reason you mentioned. 2) Subtracting levels from your character is a pain in the arse. . . . [HOUSE RULE] When you die, you do not actually lose levels, but incur "XP debt". This is equal to your (current level) * 1000 - 500. So if you were L5...

So what? Sorcerers can cast roughly 15% more spells a day than wizards AND can choose what spells to cast on the fly. That's the important part. If I want, I can cast 12 polymorph others, while the wizard is stuck casting whatever he happened to memorize, regardless of its usefulness to the...

Consider this yoinked.