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apparently he's been swamped... http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=197240&page=3

Wait... you could all see their flags from miles away, but none of you could see your own? Most powerful use of illusions? Shadowcrafting gnomes.

Consistently? Maybe not. With a decent chance of success? Certainly. The example monkey has a 15 dex, with no ranks in sleight of hand. But we can redistribute skill points. Let's give it four ranks. Now, monkeys could be deft of hand just as they are agile, so let's switch out the feat...

Sleight of hand DC 20. With a possible circumstance bonus/penalty.

Well, it looks like 4e is focusing a lot on the core gameplay element (Killing things and taking their stuff). But the focus appears to be a bit lopsided on the killing things half. I want new ways to take stuff from things. Looting a corpse is boring. ;)

Wasn't that the only time you ever used gnomes in your game? I can't remember any other instances from the story hour...

No, obviously what dungeondelver meant was he wants to fight against dwarves.

Save the gnomes, collect the whole set.

Banning all racists is definitely the way to go. Solves all sorts of interparty/intraparty conflicts. And if a player starts rolling too well getting on your nerves causing trouble, an incredibly vague accusation is all it takes to get the group to boot him/her out. You don't have to do any...

Yeah, clerics are a little overpowered. :p Seriously, that's great.

No. Of course not. They're intended as extremely expensive miniaturized wrecking balls. Start bowling with a little marble, and say the command word just before you hit this pins mooks.

But the PCs have higher wisdom and intelligence than the guards do.

OK, NOBODY HERE should be a playtesting guinea pig for wizards. Because then the supply of playtesters will go down, the demand will be high, and I'll get payed for playing a game.

It kind of already does. EDIT: Ack, beaten to the punch.

Well, they've already changed much of wizards.com to gleemax.com So Gleemax is the new name for the class.

Three tentacles up!

Yeah, I've played with indecisive people like that.

RangerWickett recently ran a campaign which ended up with his players ascending. It was pretty kewl (from what he's said about it, at least.)

It's an even number. Or did you just change it? :confused:

My conclusion from this discussion: 4e is going to be very videogamey!