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  1. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D General The Player's Quantum Ogre: Warlock Pacts

    Their institutions do. Their temples/church typically have a whole load of commandments or expectations. This is likely on the DM and expectation setting if their is no communication with a temple. I personally love the church hierarchy stuff in my game. But, yeah, probably not speaking with...
  2. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D 5E (2024) What’s the difference between sorcerers, warlocks, and wizards?

    Thinking back on our "cleric", I can understand what you say. That player just kind of crapped out Celestian.. which is nebulous at best compared to the main pantheon players, so I had to cater-fill a good bit of institutional lore there to make the character make sense at the very least. The...
  3. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D 5E (2024) What’s the difference between sorcerers, warlocks, and wizards?

    Hmm. Well, I'd say in my game class matters very much when it comes to character exploration, it doesn't sound like this is a minority because there are others who feel the same. Cherrypicking a cleric yammering about Lath all the time doesn't really cut it.. but certainly I would expect the...
  4. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D 5E (2024) What’s the difference between sorcerers, warlocks, and wizards?

    If your player is ok with "I made a deal with a fiend" and I care nothing about expounding about that, yes the base high power creatures will be present in many settings. But, all the rest of the meat has to be put on the bone if the player wants more. So the what makes my patron tick? Do they...
  5. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D 5E (2024) What’s the difference between sorcerers, warlocks, and wizards?

    I don't really understand this either. I don't see how I would have a patron fleshed out for all the possible Warlock subclasses, in a game where there is a lot more going on beyond one player possibly needing a patron option
  6. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D 5E (2024) What’s the difference between sorcerers, warlocks, and wizards?

    So - to me, for how I DM. The Warlock's pact is a story-driven difference between it and other arcane classes. Other, externally driven classes (cleric), indeed do require external inputs.. however, running off established theological principles and gods (which aren't expected to form a...
  7. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D 5E (2024) What’s the difference between sorcerers, warlocks, and wizards?

    I think the DM should have agency to call world-building, history, cultures: "MY story" all the framework to the game. Though I have let players propose world-building too. But Warlocks feel like they tread hard upon the grounds of needing to add historic and world building elements that the DM...
  8. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D 5E (2024) What’s the difference between sorcerers, warlocks, and wizards?

    I haven't played video games in years, BG3 references don't mean much to me. But, to me, if the core of a character's powers include a pact with a powerful being, then you should feature that being in some way, shape, or form. Also, I think Lv. 10 they can communicate directly with a patron...
  9. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D 5E (2024) What’s the difference between sorcerers, warlocks, and wizards?

    It's an opinion. But if I have a whole bunch of enriched world-building, I don't love the fact that the class forces me to suddenly insert another major power player into my campaign. I didn't really think my DM style would get attacked saying that I don't like adding another powerful figure...
  10. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D 5E (2024) What’s the difference between sorcerers, warlocks, and wizards?

    Hmm. I think probably the different attribute reliance changes the likely character layout from skills to motivations. Wizards make me think academia. Sorcerors make me think pure power bounded by the power of self identity (charisma) Not really sure what identity a Warlock brings to mind...
  11. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D General Gladiator = Weapon Master

    Maybe you could even suck some inspiration from enemies... you know, be the heel
  12. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D General Gladiator = Weapon Master

    In fact... if those 2 together create way too OP of a spamming loop, though I'm sure there is some low complexity way to keep from looping too much. - I feel that the 2nd idea is thematically awesome and checks so many boxes. 1) You increase the importance of the new inspiration mechanic 2)...
  13. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D General Gladiator = Weapon Master

    I like the idea. I think the subclass could use some real work though. Boy! CHA mod worth of primary feature use seems pretty piss-poor particularly with their low-scaling. The LV 15 feature dooks-craps. Feels like regains should be tied to Cha and landing successful brutality then making a...
  14. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yeah my phone has a mind of its own. Just a quote I didn't want to make
  15. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Fun topic, railroading. I often "allow" off-path behavior. Though, like yesterday for my group, sometimes the disconnect between player and character can lead to an illogical thought-path, which was happening yesterday. It wasn't that they COULDN'T get their kidnapped party member back, just...
  16. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D General How Do I Help Mentor a GM Making Rookie Mistakes?

    I would just sip some cognac and go along for the ride
  17. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D 5E (2024) Can A Spell Caster Out Damage a Martial Consistently?

    That is probably how I would consider starting with that build... though I complain about metagaming/videogamey thinking with casters, so to be fair, spreading out so you don't all get hit by something is a little bit in line with that. Also, if you thinned out the ranks with bows.. it would...
  18. TorgoTheWhite

    D&D 5E (2024) Can A Spell Caster Out Damage a Martial Consistently?

    I think the Reaver of 🐸 may have been asking: how does that help? In reference to out-DPR-ing martials. I guess in a roundabout way they are out-DPR'ing them if they are doing no dmg. Just with a pretty fragile jenga-tower pre-strategized scenario (they are like the X-men of bards :) ). Though...
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