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If it were up to me, I would like a dedicated High level handbook with all those discussions and rules material, then a bunch of one page adventure and encounter seeds, and maybe a singular high level "one shot" to put all the pieces together.

Man I wish people would stop calling Spelljammer "sci fi."

I agree, but there could still be more support for GMs. Show them how to make effective high level encounters that are fun and engaging. Talk about what kinds of challenges become trivialized by different kinds of high level abilities, and how to use those high level abilities instead of nerfing...

We could just start with most of Brandon Sanderson's work. Most of his stuff is high fantasy powered fantasy by any definition. In fact, im a little suspect of WoT being on your low power fantasy list. As I recall, there's world shaking power in the hands of the protagonist and villain.

Are we still just going off the earlier thread numbers or is there something more recent. These books are all intended to be evergreen, so how they have sold since publication, up to and including today, matters if we really want to talk about them this way.

I think the real answer is to have a D&D "latin" -- that is, a lingua franca among lore keepers, going back millenia.

I don't buy that. There's easily just as much high powered fantasy out there.

One of the benefits to WotC of have a slow release schedule is that even the mediocre stuff "sells well." If you want official content, your choices are limited.

Maybe. It is also one of the most divisive. I think it was a great toolbox and a garbage adventure, but others obviously disagree.

Do you think he is just remaking Eberron with the serial numbers filed off? Because if not, your rebuttal makes very little sense.

So why design it that way? If leveling included elimination of (now largely useless) low level options as you gain the high level options, then the workload for everyone would go down.

They will announce a licensing agreement with Darrington and there will be a Daggerheart conversion of Eberron. . . . ... I mean, I wish.

Rolling it around in my head more, we know that most GMs homebrew rather than use published scenarios. If that is the case, then (and I am admitting potentially being wrong previously, so mark yer calendars) the lack of high level adventures can't really be the problem. So what then? Is it...

Do (general) you think that if PLAYING high level 5E characters was easier -- not so many options, easier math, some other element -- more people would RUN high level 5E? I have never found 5E difficult at higher levels as a GM -- at least, certainly not as difficult as 3.x. The biggest problem...

That is the Avernus follow up?

Sometimes these arguments feel like folks have set their positions and then work toward defending those positions regardless of anything else. I think it is clear that WotC could provide more support for higher level play than they do. But it also clear that they do not provide NO support for...

I think if there was really cool content at those levels, people would engage it. Remember that a campaign doesn't have to "get to" high level -- you can start there.

My 2024 campaign is very intentionally moving quickly toward high level play. We started at 3rd but every few sessions we level up just so we can get to those levels with some context and player familiarity with abilities. I ran a super successful high level con game, so I am not worried about...

Me too. I really want to know what Kelsey sees a city campaign in Shadowdark looking like.

Do you have any that you would recommend?