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I don’t like comparing D&D characters to supers, but yeah this is a good example of the differences. I think it’s the must be x-men that chafes a bit in 4E snd PF2.

Sometimes verging on usually. I’d say immediately after level up no, but with some session progression it comes into picture like working on a jigsaw puzzle.

Yeah the reward system is going to incentivize play. So if xp comes from killing stuff well… I think that’s why milestone is appealing to me because players, at least proactive ones, employ all kinds of solutions based on their tool kit and their interests! Though, I know that can be too...

Yeah that’s fair. I’m sort hybrid in that I like set piece battles and pacing big moments buuuut I like my players developing the parameters of them through engaging the setting. Start small and work up to big. XP often stays as small as long as the trickle of power keeps coming. Which is also...

Well, probably a bit to go around then because I was specifically calling this out as boring AF. The logistics of the world reacting is fine I just find xp places the interest in the least interesting aspects.

I guess I took all the excitement about dropping random encounters on the PCs for what appears to be stupid decisions. It just seems very old school punitive which is that “Viking hat” style?

I don’t see why. My complaint is the players being hardwired to getting stuff in an extremely boring way and the response was to lean into the boringness with random encounters as a response. Just not my style.

Meh. I’d prefer to work this out of game instead of just TPK the group for not dungeon crawling correctly while playing.

I think that highlights a good point as well. Folks who play a more old school West Marches style cant count on having a full team set of roles represented to make the game work every week. Neither could Adventure League now that im thinking about it.

True but the Expanse went downhill fast once prime took over. What they did to the final season was criminal.

It’s always been a team game even the loneliest of wolves must work with the other players to become a godwizard. The difference is the team work is more passive and the individuals can contribute individually alongside the others as opposed to the design making them a team that must “bump, set...

This is precisely why I don’t do aimless west march sandbox anymore. I don’t have time for that.

Yeah I remember once being asked about the value of copper pipes and fixtures of a dungeon…

They wouldnt care, its just more XP! If they couldnt take it, they would run away and then spend the next 30-60 min discussing where they went wrong on the XP trail to not be up to that task. It was so awful before I went milestone and it might seem like im joking but they turned into normal...

I find it a little strange that the piloting and gunnery skills would have any effect outside of a mech. I like the PbtA idea and would probably just come up with some unique playbooks and a custom feature for making one and roll with that for outside of mech play.

Oh thats kinda like Billy Bob and Angelina.

Zard is often an enigma to me. Though, milestone purpose isnt all about keeping characters the same level. It is also about removing a focus (which my players were entirely obnoxious about) on XP earning activities instead of engaging the narrative organically or in a way that interested the...

I had issues out of the gate with it. Mai9nly it broke the ambiance like an unwelcome visitor. Later, I learned that folks felt the movie was too hard to understand so they went back and added the voice over narration. That annoyed me even more. However, folks have explained a bit why they liked...

I beg to differ. I have been running Traveller sand boxes for a couple decades and the system has no XP at all. The trick to worrying about only the mission being interesting is actually being interested in the adventure in the first place. I fully understand for some players they just want an...