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It might just be semantics, but my recollection was that there wasn't really a movement until the retroclones. Sure, AD&D still had its fans, but all of the elements didn't really come together into a movement until the retroclones sparked it. Sure, sure; the elements were already there, but it...

Well, that's fair. The whole reason the retroclones came into being requires some context, after all; people who weren't happy with 3e, who were happy with older versions, but weren't happy with the market for the rules (i.e., they were hard to get and very expensive on ebay, or whatever). And...

Same. That said, the letters in the OSR shouldn't be taken too literally. It's not just a revival of anything old school; it's a movement that was specifically created to make older versions of D&D available again (in retroclone form) and enable the printing of new material compatible with those...

It's a couple years old now (or more) but this is the best exegesis I've ever seen on what the OSR is. https://osrsimulacrum.blogspot.com/2021/02/a-historical-look-at-osr-part-i.html https://osrsimulacrum.blogspot.com/2021/02/a-historical-look-at-osr-part-ii.html...

I don't know why I'm very ornery about an overly expansive and incoherent usage of the word OSR, because I don't even identify with the OSR exactly, but the OSR is specifically about playing retroclones of D&D. It's not just for any game that's vaguely oldish, it's not for clones of any other...

I despise the new(ish) business model of subscriptions for software, and refuse to pay any of them. For most, there's an open freeware alternative. I do get Microsoft 360, for instance, through work, but I use LibreOffice at home, for example. I use Google Meet for free, and Teams through work...

Curiously, just in the last few weeks I've read a number of short story collections: Horror in the Museum (the collection by Del Rey, not the actual story, although it's obviously included) by Lovecraft, although these are the ghost-written and revised ones. The Cthulhu Stories of Robert E...

As soon as a see a rule that I don't like, or the lack of a rule that I think I need. Eventus stultorum magister est. I know what I want a game to do before playing it.

Played a few sessions of D&D off and on, but almost immediately checked out Gamma World, Top Secret and Star Frontiers too. Took me a little longer to look outside the old TSR sphere.

Shortish; hardly rolled any dice.

Are you suggesting that I can't engage with the premise of the OP in good faith, trusting that his experience is, in fact, his experience? Now you're being deliberately obtuse.

No. I didn't. I can see why you would have thought that, but when I said, no that's not what I meant, why would you double down and tell me that yes, I did?

If that's not your view on backwards compatibility, then every version of D&D (and most other fantasy RPGs too) is compatible with every other version. It's not a lot of work to run a B/X or AD&D module in 5e, as long as you have a Monster Manual. And you probably don't even need that.

I didn't say that you said that. I do say, however, that that's my 3e, 4e and 5e experience.

Second hand information? Yeah, it's the information in the OP. I'm reacting to it. I also made that caveat. Twice. Funny that you somehow missed that. You have a funny tolerance for what you consider a "rant."

I don't care; I'm not interested in playing 5.5, and only grudgingly willing to play in a 5e game. But clearly, based on the details in the OP, these two aren't really backwards compatible. If they're not, then WotC shouldn't have run around promising something that they couldn't really deliver...

I'm not sure what "a lot of people" means, or if those are the same "lot of people" who demanded backwards compatibility (allegedly.) I don't think the surveys gaslit WotC about backwards compatibility, I think WotC gaslit the players about backwards compatibility, which was clearly a strong...

There's a lot of space between the false binary of "rock, paper, scissors" and "complex tactical grid-based combat that plays like a skirmish wargame and takes hours for simple combats to be resolved." I mean, I get your point, and to some degree I agree with it, but I strongly dislike the level...

Obviously. My point is that clearly the artists retain the rights to do so.

Who knows? I've made several purchases recently that I know for a fact that I won't use and may not even read. But I wanted to have a copy for "posterity" or whatever. I like buying stuff.