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The easiest thing to do is just change the orb so the penalty is only on one saving throw. That beings it in line with the other implement powers and pretty much fixes all the problems with it as well.

There are several stun (save ends) powers in the PHB. Agreed.

Weakened, Immobilized, and Blinded are all worse then Stunned? Are you high? Stunned means you can't act. Like, at all. It's the worst hands down.

Which would be an impressive trick if it were, you know, possible.

I think the VSC system can survive a bit of rounding without becoming unusable. The benefit doesn't change, so all you're doing is adding math for the sake of (unnecessary) accuracy. Epic D&D is complicated enough without introducing decimal multipliers into the mix.

A phrase like this should never appear anywhere near a D&D ability. Just round it already.

It's already a template. Just use the template.

Touche.

Somewhat tangentially, does anyone know if bonus damage dice multiplied under 3.0 rules?

Given that there's a Divine ability that just gives you six feats, I fail to see the problem here.

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Nah, they just give you a flat 4 more turning attempts per day, which is even worse (stupid nightsticks).

That's sort of what I've been considering, but I'm not sure yet what good method for recharging would be, as Artificers can burn through wands like firecrackers if they want to.

Actually, I'd love to know this, too. I've been mentally toying with a Artificer deity, but I have no idea how to price things like wands and staves under UKs rules.

Would it work to just change VCSs base damage (if this is possible at this point) to scale linearly instead of exponentially? I agree that VSCs are a good idea, but having anything scale exponentially is going to lead to problems at some point down the line.

There are a couple that could fit, but in all honesty, double War works better then any of them.

Yeah, like Merc said, double War. Nothing else really fits.

I used the same system you and WarDragon did, so he has 50th level NPC wealth, which is more then sufficient to afford them (but not the Everwhirling Chain, I see now, so I will change that).

Did you take inherent bonuses into account? He's got the full five to each ability score, so that may account for the difference.

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