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    D&D General What *is* D&D? (mild movie spoilers)

    The movie certainly portrays a version of D&D, but not one I find enjoyable. I vastly prefer sitting closer to Appendix N than the movie does or most recent game books. It’s just not fun for me and not my taste. I’m happy there is an effort to create games to fill that gap with DCC, Hyperborea...
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    D&D 5E Dark Sun, problematic content, and 5E…

    To respond to some of the concerns voiced in the last page or two - why should we be okay with creative expression being held to a moral standard based on our worst expectations of the audience? How is that at all fair to creators and consumers who are able to respectfully handle sensitive...
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    D&D 5E Dark Sun, problematic content, and 5E…

    I certainly agree with your statement. My view is more from the perspective of the broader topic of this thread and the question of the poll, which is to say it’s important to let the industry as a whole know that there are customers who want settings that do not avoid difficult topics and...
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    D&D 5E Dark Sun, problematic content, and 5E…

    That’s the crux of the issue I think and has been debated by political theorists and philosophers for centuries now. Tocqueville is the most prominent in my mind if I remember correctly. What is the point of a legal right to freedom of expression if private individuals can shout down each...
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    D&D 5E Dark Sun, problematic content, and 5E…

    I don’t think anyone is talking about freedom of expression as a legal right, but as social norm. Arguing that it’s immoral or unethical in absolute terms to portray certain topics in art or other forms of expression - including games - would lead to a cultural chilling effect on what can and...
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    D&D 5E Dark Sun, problematic content, and 5E…

    As someone who survived discriminatory violence and whose family has had to rebuild for decades now as a result, I disagree with this sentiment whole heartedly. I lean strongly to the left, support policies that will aid people recovering from recent or historical prejudice, but this approach...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    Each of those examples deals with slavery, persecution, and racism. Elder Scrolls has an entire nation where religious conflict and slavery are accepted institutions and your character is even referred to by derogatory terms (using in game language) depending on their background. Those examples...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    edit: I misunderstood sorry! Dark Sun doesn’t arbitrarily reward evil as a setting, it makes heroism more challenging. It’s an underdog narrative and that’s among the most popular tropes in human story telling. Beyond that, people love bleak settings where it pays to be evil and being good is...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    That’s not quite fair to assume. Good vs evil is very fun to a lot of people. While it may not be nuanced, I still thoroughly enjoy those kinds of plot lines. There are plenty of popular examples of it too: the MCU, Star Wars, and the even the main setting of D&D. They may dress it up with good...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    True, but that difference is hard to parse when it’s still one section of the players policing the others’ content consumption. Customers pressuring companies to not make X because it offends oneself is never going to go over well with other customers who want to buy X. It’s even harder to...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    If WotC is concerned about the maturity of the content because it may not be fitting for younger generations, then we’re just back to the moral panic of the 80s and 90s all over again. It’s painfully ironic that D&D gets a push in popularity due to properties like Game of Thrones and Stranger...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    I get the argument you and others in this thread are making and I respect the intention, but I have to push back at it from it another angle. At which point is something useable as a plot element again? I speak as someone who survived the genocide in Bosnia and lost family to it, and I do not...
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    D&D 5E WotC: Why Dark Sun Hasn't Been Revived

    I am stunned at the absurdity of this decision. The setting is controversial because of climate change, class warfare, and institutionalized slavery? Guess what, those are real things. You can’t have a dramatic story without conflict, and the more relatable it is the more effective the story...
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    Kyle Brink (D&D Exec Producer) On OGL Controversy & One D&D (Summary)

    I think why people would be concerned about the phrasing on race is that there’s likely a vast gulf between Kyle Brink and the average person trying to get into the industry regardless of their race - though it is certainly even harder if you’re a minority. Getting into creative jobs is...
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    Kyle Brink (D&D Exec Producer) On OGL Controversy & One D&D (Summary)

    True - you’re right. I think everyone has had a moment where we tilt too much into hyperbole to get a broader view across. I know I have haha
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    Kyle Brink (D&D Exec Producer) On OGL Controversy & One D&D (Summary)

    The part quoted below from the interview is a really bad take in my view. Making sure historically excluded people are included and promoted is important and should be done by improving the hiring and promotion processes. Arguing that white men aren’t the face of the hobby and should be leaving...
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