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1.0a is effectively dead even if Wizards backs down, but it is still important to fight for it.
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mamba
Legend
If my wife found out, I’d point to the stuff she is buying
UngeheuerLich
Legend
If my wife found out, I’d point to the stuff she is buying
Going from my experience, that makes it worse, not better.
Alzrius
The EN World kitten
It's important to fight for the OGL v1.0a, I agree, but not because of any gesture that it might mean toward the community. Rather, it's important (at least to me) because there are entire game systems out there which are derived from the 3.5 SRD, and which won't be transferred over to the ORC License, leaving them effectively dead if WotC sunsets the OGL v1.0a (even if they migrate that and other older-edition SRDs to their new OGL, I wouldn't expect any publishers in their right mind to sign it based on the terms WotC has proposed to date).
Pathfinder 1E content. OSR content. Mutants & Masterminds content. All based on the 3.5 SRD, and all effectively dead without the OGL v1.0a. So yeah, it's worth fighting for, but not (just) because of respect, but because new stuff won't be made for games I'm not ready to give up on.
Pathfinder 1E content. OSR content. Mutants & Masterminds content. All based on the 3.5 SRD, and all effectively dead without the OGL v1.0a. So yeah, it's worth fighting for, but not (just) because of respect, but because new stuff won't be made for games I'm not ready to give up on.
MoonSong
Rules-lawyering drama queen but not a munchkin
That plus orphaned stuff that doesn't even derive from the 3.5 srd. Which isn't little.
The thing is that Disney is doing great by any objective measure you might choose to use except the ones their shareholders seem to care about, and to them Disney was doing so poorly they had to oust the CEO and bring back the old guy.
The world is a very stupid place.
If you don't need WotC, then fighting for "respect" from them is pretty meaningless.
It is also kind of a pipe dream. Companies the size of Hasbro don't recognize "respect" as a business driver. Individual executives may want to work with respect, but that only lasts as long as the individual does.
The reason to continue fighting isn't so much respect, as giving the new leadership understanding. Fact of the matter is, if Hasbro wants Big Money from the brand, media (TV and Movies) and videogames are reasonable routes to that money. But there's no need to muck with licensing for the TTRPG to get that money.
Glade Riven
Adventurer
If you don't respect your customer base you quickly find you don't have much of a customer base. Understanding is part of it. A lot of people at Wizards do understand - the problem is the executives brought in the last 5-ish years. They don't seem to understand what business they are in.
They've had a year where most of their films didn't make money or barely broke even after marketing. Especially in animation - both Lightyear and Strange World flopped. Marvel is hurting, Disney+ isn't bringing in nearly enough subscribers to justify the expense, and - oh yeah, they fired their CEO on a SUNDAY to bring back the old CEO that greenlit all the projects that didn't make money this last year. Sure, the theme parks are full but even the Pixie Dusters are getting angry at the company for choices made. Also, losing the Reedy Creek Improvement District is going to make development at Walt Disney World a lot more expensive because the new district now has to make sure everything is up-to-code at the county and state level. Disney has also been doing a poor job of monetizing the 20th Century Fox library they've purchased - they don't know what to DO with it.
Vaalingrade
Legend
Respect is meaningless if your right to exist is being threatened. That's the point of the fight: the maintain the safe harbor and the promise that no one's livelihood is going to be annihilated by a SLAPP suit or the chilling effects thereof.
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