1 charisma

[Darklone]

Hmm...

Something I forgot. Lately I picked up an old character and played him in a group.

Character concept: Kinda medieval chinese wizard. VERY arrogant, noone thinks he's worth it, a walking annoyance clad in robes with long fingernails always rambling nearly incomprehensible about "uncivilized balbalians!"

I lowered his charisma to 4 I think... But gave him high diplomacy (which he uses only when dealing with other "chinese" ones...)

I used the Wu-jen class from Oriental adventures and till now the group thinks, my tabos are due to my arrogance, nothing else...

It can be fun. But I have to admit, it's always hard to find a reason why he joins a group. Or stays with a group.

I played him the second time now, the first time the group killed him. After he saved them twice. And told them about 200 times that they owe him for it.

That's how it's gotta be!

 

[Bonedagger]

Here's the way I look at the difference of Wis and Cha:

Wis= Your ability to sense motives and understand your surroundings.

Cha= Your ability to interact with and manipulate others
(To actually understand how it is that you can do this you will need a "high" Wis. e.g. "She helps me because she is stupid" opposed to "She helps me because she is secretly in love with me.").

 

[Lord Ben]

I tend to not penalize them nearly as much as other people I guess. I look at it as being fairly linear, not exponential (sp?). 1 charisma is a -5. I look at everyday transactions and chatting as taking a 10 in your charisma skill. IE, a 16 charisma paladin can be assumed to have rolled a 13 anytime they interact but you don't roll. Likewise the 1 charisma rogue can be assumed to have gotten a 5 on every roll. When he tries to convince someone of X they're always distrustful, hence the -5 penalty. If he rolls a 20 that's a 15 on his check, whatever you do for the Paladin when he rolls a 12 is what the 1cha guy should get when he rolls a 20. Those numbers exist for a reason.

Sure, it may be only one step away from being completely unaware and non-living but it's an awfully big step.

Also, let players decide what to be. If they have a low stat and allocate it to charisma let them decide what it means, don't decide for them.

 

[xjp]

Also, let players decide what to be. If they have a low stat and allocate it to charisma let them decide what it means, don't decide for them.

I think that's the way to go. Charisma is a function of a number of other things, let the player decide what a 1 Charisma means to his character. Austistic? Obnoxious? Repulsive? etc.