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Did you know that 99% of murderers ate bread within 24 hours of committing a murder?

Statistics and association can be used to prove anything and whilst I find it hard to read some of those the articles about how D&D is evil without laughing, I find myself feeling rather sad for the authors.
 

Sorry, but I have to speak up. If this is going to be a well thought out argument of why D&D isn't evil, fine, let it be that. However I am a Bible believing Christian fundamentalist, and I do not want a thread dedicated to trashing my faith. That makes us no better than those who wrote than HIGHLY uninformed anti-D&D material, and many times less mature.

I have read the Bible 4 times cover to cover. There is nothing in there... NOTHING... that would suggest that fiction or fantasy is evil. Sure, if we were doing all this for real, then those tracts and essays would be correct. But this is NOT real, it's a game in our heads, with pencil and paper.

So... if you have reasonable arguments and intelligent comments, then by all means, post them here. I always need better ways to explain my hobby to those that don't understand.

However, if this turns into an anti-Christian thread, I'll be mailing nemmerle or Morrus to shut it down. Those tracts have nothing to do with fundamentalist Christian beliefs, and should not be interpreted as being representative of what the Christian faith is all about. They are written by people who do not understand D&D who happen to be Christians. It hurts me that it seems the most vocal of my faith are also among the most hot-headed and uninformed alarmists. But please don't let THEM cause it to be open season on the rest of us who are just like any of you, in mind and attitude, if not in spiritual beliefs.
 
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Re: Dear Mr. Chick

Fourecks said:
Hi! :)

I've read your diatribe, Mr. Chick, and I was very impressed. Your views are most noteworthy!

I was also impressed by what you said about D&D magic spells being REAL. WOW! That's amazing! How can they get away with that? Should not God smite them? I would.

But I have a question. I thought that to know the purest good one must delve into the heart of evil and therefore, I began playing D&D. I killed an orc with a pie! He didn't have any treasure though :(

I tried playing a sorcerer, because like we both know, they're the evilist. But I spoke EVERY word from the book out loud, even the stuff about the rules, AND I took a five-foot step (sorry Pete about spillin' the Moutain Dew, I didn't know you'd put the bottle behind my chair!), but nothing happened!

So, I figured, I'd go kill some innocents, you know, 'cause I wanna be the best I can be by being the worst, right?

So I sacrificed and I sacrificed, but still the spells wouldn't work!

Mr. Chick, please help me, I don't know what I'm doing wrong. If the spells are all so accurate, and even the blood of innocents won't help me (I even bought the book of Vile Darkness, but it wasn't half as bloody as those midday shoppers I shot), I must be REALLY saintly, or something.

Thanks Mr. Chick. I know I can count on you to help me be the best (worst) person I can be!

Anonymous


P.S. We're having pizza next game... are anchovies evil too?

Dear Mr. Chick

I am curious about the Characters featured in your comic "Dark Dungeons". Are they merely fictional, or are they connected with any real life person you may know? Also, in Real Life, did Blackleaf really kill herself? If not, I was wondering if you could provide me with a Phone Number, so that I might try and get a date.
I am also wondering how Elfstar was both a Cleric and a Wizard at the same time. Had she Multiclassed? What are the Multiclassing rules for Dark Dungeons?
Also, Elfstar was invited to join a witches coven even though she was a Wizard/Cleric and there was already 13 members.

Questions about Dark Dungeons:
What are the Spell tables for Dark Dungeons? Debbie cast her first spell, and this allowed her to control her father. Is 'Mind Bondage' a form of Charm Person? I would also like to inquire as to why no-one cast 'Ressurection' or even 'Reincarnate' on Marcie when she died.
Is Dark Dungeons a diceless system? Blackleaf was killed without any dice rolling, to find traps.
Do the Players with Monty Haul DMs gain 'the power' quicker than other players?
What is the Planar Cosmology of Dark Dungeons, and of the real world? Can a player plane shift to Heaven or Hell using 'The Power'?
How does spell casting work in real life? Is it ritual based, memorisation based, or spontaneous? Can players choose between them?
Why do geeks who play D&D non-stop not cast Meteor Storm when they are angry?
And finally, When is the d20 conversion planned?

Sincerely,
Six.
 

I kind of compare the Chick tract material to the father in the American Pie movies. Well intentioned, with good things to say, but embarrassingly unhip. Mr. Chick is trying to "relate" to RPG'ers (or gang members, or rock n' roll fans, or whoever) by showing that he "understands". Well, it's glaringly obvious that he doesn't understand, and therefore his message is lost by all of us who are shaking our heads saying "no no no, you've got it ALL wrong."

The idea behind all of Mr. Chick's tracts is trying to spread the Biblical message of salvation. On one hand, he should be given credit for trying to share what he believes in, in a non-combative, largely unobtrusive manner. On the other hand... well... we all know the other hand. The "real world" comparisons that he uses in his mini comics are so grossly unrealistic, that nobody takes the salvation part seriously... if they ever get that far in the reading.

[edit] The mistake that Mr. Chick makes is, when it comes to the part in the message of salvation about repenting from sin, HE tries to define sin for you. That's not his job!! It's between God and the individual. Mr. Chick's approach, therefore, does nothing to inspire anyone to want to be saved... it only offends the readers by stereotyping them.[/edit]
 
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cthuluftaghn- I can never stomach his site long enough to read his salvation part. The site is so hypocritical to me. I'm Southern Baptist, btw. :cool:
 

ArcOfCorinth said:
cthuluftaghn- I can never stomach his site long enough to read his salvation part. The site is so hypocritical to me. I'm Southern Baptist, btw. :cool:

Exactly my point. Few people can wade through his personal propaganda crusade long enough to get to anything that has to do with Christianity. So, please don't use his lack of tact and insight as a reason to attack Christians. Comments like "bad fundamentalists" means "bad cthuluftaghn" and "bad malessa", and we are both active and (I hope) respected members of this online community.
 

I don't find his message that good either, having read the bible more than a few times myself. I mean, some of the things he has said about god are pretty much incorrect, if you go by the bible.

But hey, we shouldn't be debating religion here anyway.:)
 

Sixchan said:
But hey, we shouldn't be debating religion here anyway.:)

Not everyone that has a problem with us has that problem based on so-called religious reasons. Some people think we're just weird, and others think we're a 70's / 80's holdout like mirrorballs and parachute pants. Unfortunately, I don't have time to hunt them down today.
 

Kilmore said:


Not everyone that has a problem with us has that problem based on so-called religious reasons. Some people think we're just weird, and others think we're a 70's / 80's holdout like mirrorballs and parachute pants. Unfortunately, I don't have time to hunt them down today.

Yeah, I know. I wasn't referring to the thread, as much as the way the thread seems to be going...
 

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