D&D (2024) 1D&D elf: Swing and a miss

[GMforPowergamers]

Astral: Teleport prof/day, bonus light-themed cantrip, floating skill proficiency
Eladrin: teleport prof/day with four different riders at 3rd level (damage, move ally, charm, or frighten)
Sea: water breathing, swim speed, talk with fish
Shadar-kai: necrotic resistance, teleport prof/day with rider at 3rd level (half-damage for 1 round)

my answer would be take the drow stats as a start (so you have spell like abilities) and have an alternate not drow... then make eladrin and astral elves a new race/species each. have the fluff background connect them but not the rules... the Shadar-Kai deserve this break off too

 

[Remathilis]

my answer would be take the drow stats as a start (so you have spell like abilities) and have an alternate not drow... then make eladrin and astral elves a new race/species each. have the fluff background connect them but not the rules... the Shadar-Kai deserve this break off too

The boat on that has sailed though. Regardless if they opt to just make them new lineages or whole new races, they'd all need to be reprinted. We have time to fix the Revised Elf though, but from the feedback video, I guess this did well enough to make it through.

 

[Remathilis]

So here's my proposal for "fixing" the other elves back into lineages.

Lineage	1st Level	3rd Level	5th Level
Drow	The range of your Darkvision increases to 120 feet. You also know the Dancing Lights cantrip.	Faerie Fire	Darkness
High Elf	You know the Prestidigitation cantrip. Whenever you finish a Long Rest, you can replace that cantrip with a different cantrip from the Arcane Spell List.	Detect Magic	Misty Step
Wood Elf	Your Speed increases to 35 feet. You also know the Druidcraft cantrip	Longstrider	Pass without Trace
Eladrin	You Choose your eladrin's season: autumn, winter, spring, or summer. When finishing a Long Rest, you can change your season. You know the following cantrip, depending on your season: Autumn: Friends, Winter: Chill Touch, Spring: Guidance, Summer: Firebolt	Color Spray	Misty Step
Shadar-kai	You have resistance to necrotic damage. You also know the Minor Illusion Cantrip.	False Life	Misty Step
Astral Elf	Whenever you finish a Long Rest, you gain proficiency in one skill of your choice. These proficiencies last until the end of your next long rest. You know the Sacred Flame cantrip.	Guiding Bolt	Spiritual Weapon
Sea Elf	You can breathe air and water, and you have a swimming speed equal to your walking speed. You know the Ray of Frost cantrip.	Speak with Animals	Enhance Ability
Pallid Elf	You have advantage on Intelligence (Investigation) and Wisdom (Insight) checks. You know the Light cantrip.	Sleep	Invisibility

 

[Vael]

We can't get proper High Elves until they release the stats for pot

 

[fettpett]

So here's my proposal for "fixing" the other elves back into lineages.

Lineage	1st Level	3rd Level	5th Level
Drow	The range of your Darkvision increases to 120 feet. You also know the Dancing Lights cantrip.	Faerie Fire	Darkness
High Elf	You know the Prestidigitation cantrip. Whenever you finish a Long Rest, you can replace that cantrip with a different cantrip from the Arcane Spell List.	Detect Magic	Misty Step
Wood Elf	Your Speed increases to 35 feet. You also know the Druidcraft cantrip	Longstrider	Pass without Trace
Eladrin	You Choose your eladrin's season: autumn, winter, spring, or summer. When finishing a Long Rest, you can change your season. You know the following cantrip, depending on your season: Autumn: Friends, Winter: Chill Touch, Spring: Guidance, Summer: Firebolt	Color Spray	Misty Step
Shadar-kai	You have resistance to necrotic damage. You also know the Minor Illusion Cantrip.	False Life	Misty Step
Astral Elf	Whenever you finish a Long Rest, you gain proficiency in one skill of your choice. These proficiencies last until the end of your next long rest. You know the Sacred Flame cantrip.	Guiding Bolt	Spiritual Weapon
Sea Elf	You can breathe air and water, and you have a swimming speed equal to your walking speed. You know the Ray of Frost cantrip.	Speak with Animals	Enhance Ability
Pallid Elf	You have advantage on Intelligence (Investigation) and Wisdom (Insight) checks. You know the Light cantrip.	Sleep	Invisibility

I like this design

 

[DEFCON 1]

I think Species features are all so lame and so lacking in actual oomph that I don't give a rat's ass what they end up being.

A person's JOB somehow gets 20 LEVELS of mechanical import, but who they actually are as a creature gets like 4 incredibly minor abilities-- half of which get duplicated by other creatures by just spending some of their JOB abilities.

"Uh, I think it's important we note that Elves are proficient in Perception! We need to distinguish this species and culture from all the others in the game!" "Uh... yeah? So you're doing that by giving them an ability that every single other member of the party also took too? Wow! That's great. Really made those Elves special. Really glad we have these all-important species features in the game."

It's all so ridiculous I just don't understand how anyone can really care that much about any of it.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

We may have to up your DEFCON status.

 

[Micah Sweet]

We may have to up your DEFCON status.

Funny, but DEFCON1 is as DEFCON as it gets.

 

[TwoSix]

Funny, but DEFCON1 is as DEFCON as it gets.

DEFCON 1/2. He was a normal boy, until he fell into the cursed spring. Now when you splash hot water on him, he turns into a nuclear war!

 

[DEFCON 1]

If my board name could remain whatever it was at the time I made a post, and it was very easy to switch them... I would have had a lot of fun posting as DEFCONs 1 through 5 depending on how strongly I felt about my opinions of the post. Issues I had no real care about would be posted as DEFCON5, ones that I believed with all my heart would be DEFCON1, and then the other three levels in between.