2017 D&D 5E Class Satisfaction Survey Results

Thank you for doing this. This is actually really good feedback.

 

[Jay Verkuilen]

I would like the classes with more fiddly bits to be streamlined in such a way as to feel as smooth as an "I just like rolling dice" class.

Some people like their classes more crunchy. They liked 4E. For those players, there's the battlemaster.

 

[WayOfTheFourElements]

Some people like their classes more crunchy. They liked 4E. For those players, there's the battlemaster.

Well, if they liked 4e, why not continue playing/running 4e? There's no need to play the latest WotC product. The OSR is going strong. I remember playing OSR games three times a week for years while running my Vats of Mazarin game for B/X.

Every product has a different target audience and cannot satisfy everyone equally.

 

[Cap'n Kobold]

Well, if they liked 4e, why not continue playing/running 4e? There's no need to play the latest WotC product. The OSR is going strong. I remember playing OSR games three times a week for years while running my Vats of Mazarin game for B/X.

Every product has a different target audience and cannot satisfy everyone equally.

Preferring crunchier classes does not automatically mean that they don't regard anything about 5e as an improvement.

 

[WayOfTheFourElements]

Preferring crunchier classes does not automatically mean that they don't regard anything about 5e as an improvement.

I apologize for thinking that when you wrote, "They liked 4E," I automatically assumed they enjoyed the game.

On the less snarky side. Instead of house ruling in more 4e-isms to 5e, someone more inclined to crunchy combat might also think about adding 5e-isms to 4e instead. It just depends which game is closer to the ideal vision and adjusting accordingly.

 

[Cap'n Kobold]

I apologize for thinking that when you wrote, "They liked 4E," I automatically assumed they enjoyed the game.

You're probably better off apologising to the person who actually said that then.

I was simply pointing out that wanting a class more crunchy than the champion doesn't mean that someone should have to play 4e. That classes as complex as the battlemaster, or even spellcasters, still have a place in 5e.

On the less snarky side. Instead of house ruling in more 4e-isms to 5e, someone more inclined to crunchy combat might also think about adding 5e-isms to 4e instead. It just depends which game is closer to the ideal vision and adjusting accordingly.

I view the less streamlined classes like the battlemaster to be a 5e-ism, however, and that wanting to play one in 5e shouldn't get you told that you should go play 4e instead. There are more differences between the systems than class design.

 

[Odunayo]

I'm glad that the ninja is in the phb