D&D (2024) 2024 is out...and yet.....where are the threads?

Stalker0

Legend
Unfortunately someone has already screen scraped one of the videos before it was taken down and their is a PDF out there. It was going to happen anyway I suppose due to the interest. I doubt it will seriously affect their sales though.
Probably not a screen scrape probably someone who got the book. That’s pretty normally nowadays, you want to pirate content for free there are usually ways to do it
 

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Reynard

Legend
Supporter
WotC wanted their cake and to eat it too. They wanted what is essentially free promotion, but also control. They wanted to weaponize FOMO to drive subs, but "not like that!"

It's too bad people like giving them money so much.
 

vagabundo

Adventurer
Probably not a screen scrape probably someone who got the book. That’s pretty normally nowadays, you want to pirate content for free there are usually ways to do it

No its from a youtube video of someone who did a page by page thing. Someone captured each page and into a PDF.

From the screenshot posted its low quality and there is a watermark from the youtuber.
 


Amrûnril

Adventurer
So you can show every page of a book to someone, but as soon as someone trains a camera on you, it becomes illegal?
More or less. If you own a book, you're allowed to share/loan/sell/gift it however you see fit. What you're not allowed to do is make copies of it and share/loan/sell/gift those copies. WotC certainly should have been more up front with reviewers about their guidelines, but there's nothing inherently problematic about trying to limit the distribution of digital copies of their product.
 

why does everything have to be seen to promote it? And as to how, there are plenty videos answering that question…
You're probably right. The content creators didn't have to show entire pages from the 2024 PHB on YouTube and other social media. However, it's weird that WoTC told them to limit their coverage after they spent hours designing and posting those reviews. This issue could have been nipped in the bud at the very beginning when the content creators were asked to sign an NDA.
 

Yaarel

🇮🇱He-Mage
WotC changing the guidelines after the fact is understandable albeit a bit of a fiasco. The influencers involved would likely feel burned, tho it wasnt personal.

With regard to future videos and images, permission to show upto 75% of a page is ample, and normally good enough for context and comment.
 

MarkB

Legend
WotC wanted their cake and to eat it too. They wanted what is essentially free promotion, but also control. They wanted to weaponize FOMO to drive subs, but "not like that!"

It's too bad people like giving them money so much.
Wanting people to talk about your new product is not sinister, and it's not as though any of them were reluctant to do so. Not wanting the entire product essentially released for free isn't sinister either.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Supporter
However, it's weird that WoTC told them to limit their coverage after they spent hours designing and posting those reviews. This issue could have been nipped in the bud at the very beginning when the content creators were asked to sign an NDA.

Hindsight is 20/20. If you aren't yourself the kind of person who would pirate material, you may not think of all the myriad ways in which that can be done and specifically covered them in a contract before they started to happen.

No plan survives contact with reality. The plan, therefore, usually has to change.
 

Hindsight is 20/20. If you aren't yourself the kind of person who would pirate material, you may not think of all the myriad ways in which that can be done and specifically covered them in a contract before they started to happen.

No plan survives contact with reality. The plan, therefore, usually has to change.
Hindsight is considered to be both a blessing and a curse. ;) As for the reviews, I saw them being pretty informative and something of a game changer for those of us who were sitting on the fence.
 

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