$20K (or a possible 120K) for your soul?

Frankly, if you are worried about "selling out," then I suggest you stick to small and vanity press for your books and create your own game company.

Any time you have someone else front up the money to print your ideas, they WILL force their ideas and policies on your work. There will be compromise, you level of skill, talent and business savvy will help curtail the amount of control you give up.

To tell the truth, that's the way it has always been for anyone who has had a sponsor for their work from corporate to nobles. All of the great artists of our time had to deal with it.
 

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Go on. Or drop out. If your world means that much to you, drop out. But when it all comes down to it, if you dropped out, what do you get? A chance to try and develop it on your own, in an already crowded market? Better to have a mass marketing machine at your back if you want it to be successful. 120K is nothing to sneeze at.

Most people don't get the chance to have just one big successful idea. Why worry about two? Just aim for one then go from there.

Sorry if I sounded a little mean, but a chance like that would be too much to pass up for anyone, in my mind. Just my two cents...

And heed the advice of Towelie, it just might save your life. Well maybe not, but don't tell Towelie that.
 

Well, I think you've already biased yourself against anything I'll say. I'm not one of those "people" who cooked up an idea in a week. I adapted an idea I'd been working on for almost two years. I have alot of good information about a place I created and love. I actually started dripping tears thinking about an especially sad aspect. I -love- the place I built.

But that said ... I just don't agree.

Creativity comes from within. It's the ability to take everything around you, and give it back out a little different ... a little more interesting. You may love something, but that something isn't a singular act of creativity ... "creativity" isn't a one-shot that you put down and then, poof, nothing anymore.

I'd be tempted to say not to worry about it, but y'know, I don't know. I've met Ed Greenwood. Talked to him about FR, heard him talk about FR. Sometimes, Ed seemed a little bitter ... he relinquished some control over his game world and his writing. Sometimes, it's aggravating. I don't think he's unhappy, mind you, just feels bound in places.

So, yea, y'know ... I'm not going to say it'll all be shining happy roses and you're a raving lunatic.

But it's 120K ... it's pretty obvious that writing isn't what you want to do for a living. That's a living. I can't really think of anything I'd rather do. I love the act of creating ... I love working without bounds, I love working within bounds ... I love deadlines, even. I was freaking out all week long coming to Thursday when I mailed it. But it was grand. It's energy, to me. I'm normally a reserved, aimless person ... but when I'm writing, I'm different. I'm passionate, energetic, driven. I can't think of anywhere else that boundaries give me energy and joy. Every other job weighs me down, dulls my thinking, and I spend all my time contemplating my next coffee break, watching for the weekends.

I can love things and let them go, watch them change, watch them go somewhere I wasn't prepared for them to go. I'll see it as an adventure. I'll tip my hat, take my money, play my campaign the way I want it. I'll write the novels within any constraints they have ... I'll write my own novels the way I want, though, as well. About somewhere else. Get a book deal with WotC and with another publisher. Even if I never get another deal, even if WotC totally mangles my world and cuts me off from it in some wildly dramatic moment with a black hat and waxed moustache rubbing their hands together and cackling as they kill a creative thought I loved and nurtured to life ... 120K will pay for my college loans and allow me to make a living. 20 years from now I'll look back and raise a toast to that man in the black hat and funny moustache.

Look at it this way ... some people are in a position where they'll sell their BODY for 50 or 150 dollars. Some people sell their sweat and muscles for 35K a year. Some people sell their minds and education for 60-70K a year. If I can sell a single idea for 120K, I'm making out like a bandit.

--HT
 

Yeah, I'm sorry for being an arse too! :D
I've just heard from so many different people about their worlds being special, which is great, but spare us the rest of the selling your soul stuff. I'm sure the world that you have created is great, and I don't see how offering a "fantasy RPG world" is selling your soul, when others will get to enjoy it?
 


Out of curiosity, I have to ask, DragonDroid... are you or do you aspire to be a professional writer? You mentioned you've sent stories to a couple magazines.

If you are indeed looking toward being a published, successful writer, you cannot sit on an idea for 6 years. You mentioned you came up with the setting idea in 1996. It's now 2002 and you haven't done anything with it other than revise it and work on novels (unless there's more to the story you haven't mentioned in this thread).

Six years and $0 on this one idea. And now you have the chance, however slim, to make $120,000 or more off that one idea within (my guess) 3-6 months.

So what if you sell it and its no longer yours to play with? If you truly are or desire to be a professional writer, ideas are a dime a dozen. Stephen King has had more than one good idea, as have every other writer who has one or more books on the shelves.
 

I read the subject the title and recalled this BBC interview with this guy who put up his soul for sale on Ebay. I think the highest bid he received was $30.96 .

So $120k sounds like a good price. ;)
 

DragonDroid said:
The above was just a commentary on selling your ideas for mere cash. Yeah, I was a little TOO overdramatic, but I'm adding myself to RangerWickett's side.

(This is mostly to Napftor.)

For everyone who wrote/directed/etc., there is always one idea in which they felt dear. Lucas made Star Wars (who cares about Indiana Jones?). Rowling made Harry Potter. Francis Ford Coppola directed the Godfather trilogy (who cares about Apocalypse Now)?

And Shakespeare wrote Romeo and Juliet. Who cares about Hamlet? Or Macbeth? A Midsummer Night's Dream?

James Cameron made Titanic. Who cares about the Terminator movies? The Abyss? Aliens?

Steven Spielberg made E.T. Who cares about Jaws? Or Schindler's List? Raiders of the Lost Ark? Close Encounters of the Third Kind?

Then there's Michelangelo, Picasso, Beethoven, and countless others.

Like all the others you mentioned, each artist only made ONE thing that anyone cared about. Whatever.
 


Okay, this is, indeed, getting a tad melodramatic.

If you want to keep your setting all your own, to ensure that nobdy else can ever taint it, that's your business, and your right.

But if you're hoping to make a career of this industry, it's not the wisest choice you can make.

The reasons have been explained over and over, so I'll not do so again. And if you don't want to make a career of this, obviously it doesn't much matter either way.

What's starting to bug me is the sense that some people feel they're superior for refusing to submit. (No, I'm not pointing fingers or naming names.) Those of us who did submit aren't "selling out." We're not whoring ourselves to WotC, or betraying any nebulous artistic ideal. We're trying to do something with an idea that we feel (or at least hope) others will appreciate.

The decision not to submit isn't the "wrong" one*. It's just as valid as the decision to submit. But neither is it worth any particuar respect. It's just a choice--and one that I, to be perfectly frank, am getting a bit tired of people justifying**. If you chose to submit, great. If you didn't, great. If you have to try to convince other people that you made the right choice, is it possible you're actually trying to convince yourself that you didn't screw up?

(* Well, if you decided not to submit because you don't want to "give up" your world, it's not the wrong choice. If you didn't submit because you think you can make more money on your own, it really was the wrong choice. Sorry to be so blunt, but there it is.)

(** Note the word "justifying." I didn't say people should stop talking about it, or stop posting about it. Just stop trying to validate it. It's a valid choice--just not the right one for a lot of people.)
 

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