24 - 4e style (closed)

Deft strike's move still provoke Opportunity attacks.
I realised that but I was kinda damned if I did and damned if I didn't. With only one action allowed it was either run away or attack.

Run away - OA
Attack (ranged weapon!) - OA
Change weapon to melee weapon = minor action and then could do nothing else anyway.

So in the end Garrick decided to at least try and weaken the enemy.
 

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All I meant is you should have rolled it.

This was the best choice; better than doing sly flourish since the OA was caused by movement and thus gained the +6 to AC.
 



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Woohoo! :D

That surely was a lot of fun, even though Leyra rolled a lot of bad rolls in this last combat (that Turn Undead was such an epic failure), but all in all, I think she did well enough (glad, that my Lightning Longbow trick actually worked in that last combat, hehe; just too bad, that I never got to use my best prayer... I really expected to see another round, and then I wanted to use it, but 38 damage in one round was just too much). :)


When I DM a PC whose player is absent, he rocks. He rolls through the roof.

LOL

Not, that your rolls weren't constantly through the roof. :lol: ;)


One thing, I am a bit unsure about is, whether Stealth really works like that (or is intended to work like that)?

Of course you need cover on the battlefield to use it, but it seems a bit easy to do, or not? Especially when comparing with Bluff, which is only once per combat and takes a standard action.

Just curious about it, really. :)

Bye
Thanee
 

One thing, I am a bit unsure about is, whether Stealth really works like that (or is intended to work like that)?

Of course you need cover on the battlefield to use it, but it seems a bit easy to do, or not?

Well, I basically just follow the official guideline:

Becoming Hidden: You can make a Stealth check
against an emeny only if you have superior cover or
total concealment against the enemy or if you’re
outside the enemy’s line of sight. Outside combat,
the DM can allow you to make a Stealth check against
a distracted enemy, even if you don’t have supior cover
or total concealment and aren’t outside the enemy’s
line of sight.

Superior Cover, Superior Concealment or no LOS are required to make a stealth check. I think I have always respected these criteria. If I made a mistake, my bad.

On some map, it was easier than on others.

On the first map, the sniper dwarf firing through the tiny window could try almost at will. People out of the forest, though, had fewer options.

On the bridge, it was almost impossible to become hidden without magic. Indeed, not one stealth check was made on that map.

On the last map, the pillars and the panel in the corridor made it a snap. Loads of check were made on that map.

I use common sense too; I wouldn't allow Mirage to use his cloak of distortion to initiate stealth! Blur style effect make you hard to target but there is no question that people easily spot your location.

Especially when comparing with Bluff, which is only once per combat and takes a standard action.

That's true.

But if you ask out of concern for a melee rogue vs a ranged one, I can tell you a 6th level melee rogue would have been able to sneak attack almost every round, often without flanking. I built one for fun and he was guaranteed 2 or 3 round of sneak attack every fight without flanking thanks to his utility powers and 1 or 2 more thanks to melee attack if they hit (still without flanking). And then he could still flank.

It's really the stealth rogue who needs a bit of help. The current rules are more restrictive than the early one (back then, any cover could be used and some argued they could use their ally for cover!).
 
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LOL

Not, that your rolls weren't constantly through the roof. :lol: ;)

Actually, on several occasion I rolled abysmally against Velmont's character. That's weird because I also have a long tradition of rolling great against him.

In one particular campaign, I killed his PCs 5 time in 10 levels. He is by far the record holder for most total PC death over our D&D career in my regular group.

;)
 
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Thanks a lot Mal I've really enjoyed the game - Even though Garrick got somemreally crap rolls with IC. Give me a heads-up if you start any more.

And thanks to the rest of you as well, it was great almost dying with you!!
 

I think the part that I'm wondering about when it comes to Stealth is, whether it is enough to get into superior cover as part of the move action, or whether you would have to start in superior cover.

Anyways, it's certainly not a problem with me... just wondering about it, really. :)

Bye
Thanee
 


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