25th Level Spells - Hints from Past Podcasts

[Aloïsius]

I wonder if this means we get a new polymorph that is generic that spans many levels. for example: Polymorph into a creature whose HD = the Level of the spell.

I think there will be NO polymorph self. Baneful polymorph (frog, rat, snail...). And various "form of the..." spells. Example : lvl2 : form of the wolf, lvl5 : form of the raven, lvl9 : form of the bear : lvl 12 form of the troll etc...
But the won't use something as freestyle as "lvl=hd" because this would be an open door to broken combo (fleshraker, outsider...)

 

[danbala]

Are there any other tidbits from past podcasts?

I just listened to one in which they described the 3rd ed bard as the "class that wandered in from another game."

 

[MerricB]

This has been clarified.

Any word on whether the rumor about 30 spell levels is true? If not, are we sticking to the original nine?

Posted by WotC_Logan: Power level corresponds to the character level at which you gain the power.

http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=910164

Cheers!

 

[Thirsty]

So, you'd be playing Rolemaster!


--Penn

Or HARP

 

[Alzrius]

This has been clarified.

Any word on whether the rumor about 30 spell levels is true? If not, are we sticking to the original nine?

Posted by WotC_Logan: Power level corresponds to the character level at which you gain the power.

http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=910164

Cheers!

I'm pretty sure there's an answer in there, but I'm not totally clear on what it is.

 

[zoroaster100]

You could have a flexible (yet restricted) polymorph spell which works kind of like the summon monster spells in 3.5, with each higher level version giving you a choice from a short list of preselected options for forms to transform into.

 

[MerricB]

I'm pretty sure there's an answer in there, but I'm not totally clear on what it is.

A "9th level spell" is a spell you gain access to at 9th level.

Cheers!

 

[Ry]

Any word on whether the rumor about 30 spell levels is true? If not, are we sticking to the original nine? Posted by WotC_Logan: Power level corresponds to the character level at which you gain the power.

Glee!

 

[Brennin Magalus]

Sounds a lot like 3.5 psionics with the augmentation rules. Always thought having a big stack of cure spells was pretty lame. Looking at all of the "lesser" and "greater" spells in the books, condensing those would certainly simplify things a lot and make low level spells not as lame at higher PC levels.

Absolutely!

 

[BryonD]

While I really like this idea, where I think it will create some major complaints is in high-level play.
"What do you mean my 19th level Wizard can't cast Time Stop?"
"Sorry, that's a 26th level spell now."
"4e sucks!"

I really doubt that will be the case.
It has been described as 11-20 is heroic (?) and 21-30 is epic.
So the extra 10 are just epic built in.
That should mean (in roughly 3x terms) that Time Stop would be 17th to 20th level. I do assume some spells will get delayed a level or three. But unless they have decided that Time Stop is epic (which I guess they could do) it should still be in the same range based on class level.