D&D 3E/3.5 [3.5] Can a Bbn/Drd wield a glaive while wildshaped as a dire ape?
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Wippit Guud
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Caliban said:
Apes don't have a druid/barbarian's brain in their head
Wippit Guud said:
Apes don't have a druid/barbarian's brain in their head
Doesn't matter. Gripping a club to bash something isn't the same as gripping a sword to slash/thrust, or two-hand wielding a glaive.
Apes are still animals, and animals don't use weapons in D&D. Get the opposable enhancement if you want to.
Rozman
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Perhaps a link or quote of Collin's clarification would help?
I'm leaning towards "the weapon remains the same size", since you can still hold it in 2 hands when you get bigger.
Whether or not you can wield it effectively is independent of "held in the same way." A Halfling can hold a Large longspear, just can't effectively use it as a weapon.
Maybe the clarification has some more info.
I'm leaning towards "the weapon remains the same size", since you can still hold it in 2 hands when you get bigger.
Whether or not you can wield it effectively is independent of "held in the same way." A Halfling can hold a Large longspear, just can't effectively use it as a weapon.
Maybe the clarification has some more info.
Malin Genie
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Although it's 3.0 and unclear whether it will make it into the 3.5 splatbooks, the Ópposable' weapon enhancement allows use by wildshaped creatures.
I would probably rule that without it, a Dire Ape form couldn't effectively wield a weapon.
I would probably rule that without it, a Dire Ape form couldn't effectively wield a weapon.
Wippit Guud
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IN a world where an octopus can open up a jar, pull out a second jar, open up that jar, and pull out a fish... whis is a glaive-wielding ape so hard to imagine?
Not to mentions sharks with fricken lasers on their heads.
Not to mentions sharks with fricken lasers on their heads.
Blood Jester
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Re: Re: Re: Re: [3.5] Can a Bbn/Drd wield a glaive while wildshaped as a dire ape?
That shot is a little misleading, the thumb appears stunted. Our hands are not what make us stand out in the animal world, many primates have extremely similar anatomy in that respect.
Look at this image:
It's small, but will give you another view on gorilla hands, note how much more developed the thumbs are.
Caliban said:
That shot is a little misleading, the thumb appears stunted. Our hands are not what make us stand out in the animal world, many primates have extremely similar anatomy in that respect.
Look at this image:
It's small, but will give you another view on gorilla hands, note how much more developed the thumbs are.
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green slime
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I don't see why not.
This player has given up half a spell level in order to gain access to better weaponry, and the ability to rage.
I'd let the player have his 20 ft reach glaive while wildshaped into a dire ape. As soon as he lets go of the glaive it reverts to its normal form, and it won't help to pick it up again.
Nobody would deny the troll polymorphed Eldritch knight his reach weapons. In spite of having claws the size of scimitars.
I say let the player have his character's abilities have some synergy.
Apes are animals and can use clubs; ergo animals use weapons. Apes DO have opposable thumbs. Therefore, the wildshaped Druid should be able to use weapons. No argument can be made on the inability to use weaponry based on a lack of Dexterity, as in DnD a character is not required to have Dexterity greater than 1 to wield a greatsword, and suffers no loss of ability to deal damage (he can't avoid getting hit, but he is just as deadly with his blade, as if he had Dexterity 35).
This player has given up half a spell level in order to gain access to better weaponry, and the ability to rage.
I'd let the player have his 20 ft reach glaive while wildshaped into a dire ape. As soon as he lets go of the glaive it reverts to its normal form, and it won't help to pick it up again.
Nobody would deny the troll polymorphed Eldritch knight his reach weapons. In spite of having claws the size of scimitars.
I say let the player have his character's abilities have some synergy.
Apes are animals and can use clubs; ergo animals use weapons. Apes DO have opposable thumbs. Therefore, the wildshaped Druid should be able to use weapons. No argument can be made on the inability to use weaponry based on a lack of Dexterity, as in DnD a character is not required to have Dexterity greater than 1 to wield a greatsword, and suffers no loss of ability to deal damage (he can't avoid getting hit, but he is just as deadly with his blade, as if he had Dexterity 35).
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