[3.5 Revision Spotlight] The Gnome


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JPL said:
It's different, but I like it.

Bards make excellent tricksters [spells + rogue-type skills], and they have Knowledge as a class skill, which is consistant with the idea that gnomes value education.

Besides, gnome = gnosis = knowledge = bardic lore.

Gnomes are the keepers of the lost knowledge. This works.

I don't think the word gnome has anything to do with gnosis. It comes from gnoma, which was basically an earth spirit/fey style of creature (can't remember if it was greek or roman in origin). The other ones were sylpha for air (slyphs), undines for water, and salambes for flame (salamanders).
 

Al said:
Replacing illusionist was a bad step. The whole gnomish race is *geared* towards illusion.

And maybe the new Bard is also heavy in illusion?

We cannot tell whether this is "profane" until we see the whole package - gnome and bard and illusionist.
 

Al said:
I'm not really sure it fits in with the whole gnomish racial archetype. They do not have a necessarily arts-orientated culture- indeed, their cultural description tends to have them very much going for the practical skills and sciences, with those gnomes with a steady profession tending to be engineers, scientists, scholars and the like; not dancers, prancers and balladeers

Yep, you've pretty much hit the nail on the head. Right-brained vs. left-brained.

That picture of Gimble, the three-foot-tall dashing little rake, sure doesn't sel the package. It's almost like a parody that mocks of the revision.
 

Thinking about it, having all of that illusionist ability (+2 racial bonus on saving throws against illusions: Gnomes are innately familiar with illusions of all kinds. Add +1 to the Difficulty Class for all saving throws against illusion spells cast by gnomes.), anyway and then making illusionist a favored class on top of it all does seem like quite a waste (overkill?) so perhaps another favored class would make more sense?
 

Enceladus said:
Thinking about it, having all of that illusionist ability (...) anyway and then making illusionist a favored class on top of it all does seem like quite a waste (overkill?) so perhaps another favored class would make more sense?

That’s like saying it’s overkill for the half-orc to have favorite class: barbarian ;)

Anyway...
I think it’s quite a decent choice to make bards the favorite class for gnomes. Makes sense, and should be fun. And for any XP penalties - I wouldn’t use them retrospective.
 


I think it's pretty cool. Perhaps as Enceladus suggested, someone thought that gnomes were overly specialized as illusionists. ("I'm not going to play an illusionist, so why would I take a gnome?")
 

CCamfield said:
I think it's pretty cool. Perhaps as Enceladus suggested, someone thought that gnomes were overly specialized as illusionists. ("I'm not going to play an illusionist, so why would I take a gnome?")


Thanks CCamfield for recognizing genius when he sees it! :D ;)
 
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