D&D 3E/3.5 3.5 Weaponmaster

[Eltern]

Anyone got one? Does it need changing? What would I change to make it work in the 3.5 environment? Have we heard anything about it being reprinted in 3.5? I assume nothing given that it didn't show up in Complete Warrior.

Eltern

 

[Thanee]

If it hasn't been updated, you can probably simply use the 3.0 version "as is".

Bye
Thanee

 

[Eltern]

If it hasn't been updated, you can probably simply use the 3.0 version "as is".

Bye
Thanee

Except I'd changing the wording of the critical expanding abilities to work with 3.5 stacking.

 

[Darklone]

Actually some CW classes are "better".

 

[Kae'Yoss]

It's in Complete Warrior. Name's Kensai. Changed quite a bit.

 

[Pax]

No, Kae Yoss, the CW "Kensai" is not and updated Weapon Master, it's a distinct class in it's own right.

 

[Ranger REG]

So's the CW Samurai. Hah!

I don't know if I would use the CW Kensai with OA. The Kensei (which is actually Weapon Master prestige class ... errata'ed) is good enough for me.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

No, Kae Yoss, the CW "Kensai" is not and updated Weapon Master, it's a distinct class in it's own right.

For me, it's clear: In 3.0, the Kensai was the weapon master, and now we have a new version of Kensai, and one that has to get a "Signature Weapon", one that uses Ki and is monk-friendly. Unless there will be a Weapon Master Class in a 3.5 Book (other than fighter, which can fill that role quite well), I'll consider the WM and the Kensai to be still the same thing.

 

[Pax]

No, KaeYoss. In 3.0, the weaponmaster was the weapoinmaster. Oriental Adventures gave the name "Kensai" to their reprint of the Weapon Master, but that doesn't mean that future, non-OA products that re-use the Kensai name must, therefor, be updates to the weapon master.

"Kensai" has been used, re-used, and re-re-used time and again in D&D. In 1E's Oriental Adventures, it was a base class. In 3E Oriental Adventures, it was an "orientalised" name for the Weapon Master. And in Dragon Magazine, there is another "Kensai" class - it's in issue #310 or #311 IIRC, as a "specialist fighter" for 3.5e!

So, tell me ... would the "real" Kensai please stand up?

 

[Camarath]

For me, it's clear: In 3.0, the Kensai was the weapon master, and now we have a new version of Kensai, and one that has to get a "Signature Weapon", one that uses Ki and is monk-friendly. Unless there will be a Weapon Master Class in a 3.5 Book (other than fighter, which can fill that role quite well), I'll consider the WM and the Kensai to be still the same thing.

I would just like to point out that the two classes to not share the same name. The OA class is the Kensei and the CW class is the Kensai