3e and the Test of Time


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Akrasia said:
Maybe this is just my age (34), but all anime does is remind me of those awful "G-Force" cartoons from my youth.

It's always amusing when people my age try the crusted-on-old-fart schtick.


Hong "but what IS it that's crusted on?" Ooi
 

Acid_crash said:
sweet... at least I know I'm not the only person with taste. ;)
OH MY GOD!

:(

Why is it that our little community has to be divided against itself so passionately among different game systems? Geeze, you guys are making C&C look like a Lincoln town car. Well, I guess it had to happen.
 
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Psion said:
On the other hand, I am having a hard time seeing what they could do in a 4th edition that would convince me that it's worth ditching the utility of my collection of fascinating and well written materials from a variety of publishers. 3e -- and more specifically, the OGL and D20 STL -- brought variety and depth and possibilities to the game that it never had before.

That elicits a big AMEN from me. Preach it, brother.
 

Sir Elton said:
... Why is it that our little community has to be divided against itself so passionately among different game systems? ...

As they say about political fights in academia:

"The conflicts are so vehement, because the stakes are so small."
:cool:
 

BelenUmeria said:
IME, when I switched to 3.5, I packed all my WOTC 3.0 books away and have not used them since..

I *wish* it was like this for me.

Firstly, I hate a couple of the minor 3.5 rules changes (like certain weakened spells and the entire new damage resistance system -- I want good magic weapons to be able to hurt EVERYTHING, I don't want players carrying some lame-ass spice rack of holy silver, adamantine, mithral and cold iron swords).

Secondly, mere months before 3.5 was announced, I bought two spare 3.0 Players Handbooks. AGGGHHH! :/

Lastly, although I own 3.5 editions of the big three rulebooks, I'm just not in the mood to re-buy every new thing that they're re-releasing (like COMPLETE ARCANE to sort-of-replace TOME AND BLOOD, etc.), so now I'm soured on the whole D&D-product-buying experience (although I still pick up a lot of third-party stuff).

So anyway, I have to use a mix of books from 3.0 and 3.5 (albeit mostly 3.5) in my games. I know the easy thing to do would be to wimp out and switch entirely to 3.5 but I can't bring myself to do it. CURSED NEW DAMAGE RESISTANCE!!!!

Jason
 

Breakdaddy said:
That elicits a big AMEN from me. Preach it, brother.

Admittedly, I think 3.0 is awesome too. In my opinion, 3.0 is the best version of D&D ever. (I like AD&D but just for nostalgia.) And 3.5 is mostly the same as 3.0, so that alone makes it good.

I dislike a couple of aspects of 3.5, though -- not just rules but some of the ways in which the "product branding" and "need to sell miniatures" shows through more blatantly. As someone who works for a fairly large entertainment company (in a minor capacity), I recognize this stuff and it pisses me off.

Jason
 


One idea that could be made to a "4e" would be to drop the class system and go to a complete skill based system. This would throw much of the 3e and 3.5e stuff out the window and require those that wanted to stay current to buy new books. :D

Instead of classes, your could tailor you PC however your pleased by buying skills. For instance one skill might be cast 1st level wizard spell - evocation. New books would expand the skill base to select from. The PrC's would become "kits or professions" with suggested skill sets and might allow new synergies if certain skills were taken.

The magic system could also be revised into a mana/spell points system. Something many players have wanted for a long time.
 

Virel said:
3e and the test of time?

3e lasted four years before being supersecded by 3.5

1st ed AD&D lasted over ten years before being superceded by 2nd ed AD&D which also lasted around ten years.

Ah, but is time between published editions the relevant question? I don't think so. There are more important questions to ask -

1)At the end of four years, which game did people feel needed fewer house rules to make it fun?

2)Which game wil have more players ten years after it's original publication?

3)Should we be considering 3.5e a distinct edition separate from 3e for this purpose? They share more similarities than they do differences.
 

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