D&D 4E 4E Challenge: Design a TPK

[Morrus]

Using the official monsters we've seen already, with a 500 XP point buy, what is the toughest encounter you can design?

By "we" does that mean all the monsters that anyone has seen, or all the monsters that everyone has seen?

 

[Jack99]

By "we" does that mean all the monsters that anyone has seen, or all the monsters that everyone has seen?

Aren't you under an NDA, sir?

(tease)

 

[Family]

By "we" does that mean all the monsters that anyone has seen, or all the monsters that everyone has seen?

You can't see invisible gnomes

But SURE & PLEASE! Go right ahead, we'll allow non-released monsters

 

[TerraDave]

the XP dragon had more far more HP, more attacks, could do more damage...though it was vs. 6 pcs.

By "we" does that mean all the monsters that anyone has seen, or all the monsters that everyone has seen?

You just have to keep rubbin it in...

 

[Morrus]

You just have to keep rubbin it in...

But it's so much fun!

Believe me, the moment the NDA drops, I'll share like a... umm... sharing thing...

 

[Kahoots]

But it's so much fun!

Believe me, the moment the NDA drops, I'll share like a... umm... sharing thing...

<--- Feeling properly taunted. *shakes fist at the sky*

 

[WhatGravitas]

Believe me, the moment the NDA drops, I'll share like a... umm... sharing thing...

By the moment the NDA drops, we already have it. Unless the NDA drops 0:01 am GMT, since you're in Britain.

Cheers, LT.

 

[Jack99]

the XP dragon had more far more HP, more attacks, could do more damage...though it was vs. 6 pcs.

HP don't matter much if you can't hit a monster.

When that is said, my comments were mostly based on personal experience, I will admit that much. I have run a lot of combats, and my players had it easier (read: lasted longer/were closer killing) against Nightscale than against the Chuul, without I remember the rolling being especially good on my side, or poor on their side.

Either way, I will grant you that it probably isn't an automatic TPK. Regarding the swarm, my guess is that it is a typo, the damage should be 1d6+4 and 2d6+4 which would help some. If there isn't a typo, it does look comparatively very very tough on paper.

 

[Starbuck_II]

Burned up the whole party when I tried.



Based on the black dragon at DDXP, it's not very doable.

If you recall, most groups got slaughtered there. This baby has higher AC than the dragon had (defenders need a 20, rogue needs to target reflex or will also need a 20 to hit. Ranger can manage with a 17 if he uses careful shot). All casters need to roll 15+ to hit it.

It also has quite a nasty damage. Just about all attacks will hit. 6d6+12 if immobilized and people will be dropping quickly. Healing won't keep up for long. Average is almost enough to drop the fighter in a single round.

The Dragon have more than 500 XP cost though. So the Dragon isn't following the OP's rules.

 

[Jack99]

The Dragon have more than 500 XP cost though. So the Dragon isn't following the OP's rules.

I know. But someone else brought it up as comparison. /shrug