4e D&D GSL Live

[CleverNickName]

I'm not a publisher, so I can take all of this with a grain of salt. But if I *were* a publisher, especially a publisher who was accustomed to working under the earlier license, I would be wary.

 

[TimeOut]

I noticed there's nothing like the section 15 of the OGL. Does this mean I don't have to note my sources if I reuse stuff from another 3pp?

See the comments about Section 10.2 above. You need to negotiate or license the 3pp stuff you want to use yourself.

If that includes that you have to note down your sources, you must do so.

 

[Darrin Drader]

Yep. Its certainly against the spirit of Open Gaming, but this prevents lame PDF publishers from creating tons of compilation products. I couldn't be happier.

I really didn't see much of this going on under the OGL, besides, publishers were always welcome to designate any portion of their new rules content closed anyway. What this does is make it so that every publisher that wants to open up their product has to come up with their own license. Lame.

 

[TimeOut]

I hate to say it, but I think the main thing they were going for was to keep people from creating near replacement versions of D&D that went by different names so that people were no longer getting hyped to play D&D...they were getting hyped to play Iron Heroes or some such. It looks like they succeeded in making this licence closer to the original 3.0 intent...to get people to make adventures to drive sales of the core rules.

I think that is the intent of the GSL... You can create new content that expands the game in accordance with the core rules. You can create adventures and modules, new classes, monsters and such stuff.

But you can't change the basic rule framework, or convert it with special rules.

Likely it is ment to provide a steady growth for the core 4e and to stop the creation of such things as Pathfinder.

 

[JDJblatherings]

I noticed there's nothing like the section 15 of the OGL. Does this mean I don't have to note my sources if I reuse stuff from another 3pp?

It means you must comply with any other 3pp as they wish you to each and every case will be up to the originators of the material.

 

[Lord Xtheth]

What about for publishing campaigns Vs. Character creation?
I can't put in my campaign book "use 30 point buy instead of normal point buy" for example just because it refers to a method of character creation?

 

[Vanuslux]

The clause I find interesting is that if you make a GSL product, you can never make that product an OGL product EVEN AFTER THE LICENSE TERMINATES.

This should be interesting.

Also, since Dungeon Crawl Classics is a product line, all 3.x DCCs must be off the market (including .pdfs) once Goodman creates its first 4E DCC.

Can they just start a new line of modules that's called something besides Dungeon Crawl Classics and still be safe?

 

[Reynard]

The thing that concerns me is the issue of reprinting and the prohibition against it. yes, i understand that they are trying to avoid a Pocket Player's Handbook type situation, but what does that mean for adventures? Does that mean you can't actually print a whole stat block for a creature that is referenced in the SRD? What about rules information for powers, skills, feats and the like?

 

[TimeOut]

What about for publishing campaigns Vs. Character creation?
I can't put in my campaign book "use 30 point buy instead of normal point buy" for example just because it refers to a method of character creation?

I would say, you can't. It changes the rules of a 4E Reference and mentions character creation.

 

[JDJblatherings]

What about rules information for powers, skills, feats and the like?

You can't print the rules information for powers, skills, feat s and the like.