D&D 4E 4e price increase?

[Imaro]

I consider $40 standard for a complete game in a single volume. D&D requires 3 books to play. $120 is not standard; its highway robbery.

QFT. I look at my Exalted 2nd ed. book (400pgs/full color/hardback/glossy) for $39.99, and it contains all the rules needed to run or play the game, and totally agreee with you.

Paying $110 to 120 is, IMHO, excessive for a complete game. The funny thing is it falls totally on the person who wil be running aka the DM (usually the same person taxed with setting up a group, finding a spot, supplying tokens or minis, etc.) to spend the most...while players only have to buy the one book. That's why I think I'll only be buying a PHB ( and that's if I'm interested enough) this time around, I got plenty of games I can run and will gladly play in a 4.0 game, but with more and more games at comparatively better prices, it's harder for me to justify spending the money on the 3 book model to DM. YMMV of course.

 

[Scribble]

I always har that paper has skyrocketed... Really? Like how much does it cost now?

I'd be happier if they reduced the price and printed everything in black and white exept maybe the cover... On the crummy paper they used for 1e.

 

[The Little Raven]

II'd be happier if they reduced the price and printed everything in black and white exept maybe the cover... On the crummy paper they used for 1e.

Arthaus did this with a number of White Wolf lines that weren't very successful. They reduced costs by reducing the quality of the physical product.

Every single one of those lines is now dead. Not so sure if it's the best route to take if they want to grow the market.

 

[Scribble]

Arthaus did this with a number of White Wolf lines that weren't very successful. They reduced costs by reducing the quality of the physical product.

Every single one of those lines is now dead. Not so sure if it's the best route to take if they want to grow the market.

Oh admittedly my comment has nothing to do with what's good for the market as a whole. My comment was more along the lines of what would make ME happiest.

But at least with 4e, I can look at it as 42.00 for a book AND a digital version of said book...

 

[Imaro]

Arthaus did this with a number of White Wolf lines that weren't very successful. They reduced costs by reducing the quality of the physical product.

Every single one of those lines is now dead. Not so sure if it's the best route to take if they want to grow the market.

I'm just curious...but what lines were these?

 

[Mistwell]

Again...$20 at buy.com. What's the problem?

 

[WyzardWhately]

This is not such an amount of money I can't afford if I really want it. I'm a law student, but I don't eat out a lot so I'm not in abject poverty or anything. That said, WotC is going to have to work for it.

And I play at the FLGS pretty frequently, so I can't justify ordering online for the discount.

 

[Hella_Tellah]

75% increase in 7 years... 10.5% per year-- how much of this is inflation?

10.5% per anum inflation would double the cost in 7 years.

According to the Department of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics, $30.00 in 2000 bought as much as $36.40 does today--and those figures are for a representative basket of goods. As previously mentioned, printing costs have increased quite a bit recently, so $40.00 sounds like a reasonable figure.

 

[The Little Raven]

I'm just curious...but what lines were these?

Changeling was the first, followed by Trinity, and then finally Aberrant. All three released a product or two after the transition, then died because they produced less sales than they did under the main White Wolf imprint.

They also have several lines they published that just seem to have dried up... World of Warcraft RPG (no products on the horizon, and rumors that the license has expired), Everquest RPG (no new products for a long time), Secret of Zir'an (no new products for a long time, can't access Paragons Games site right now, so no idea if they're still around), Gamma World (no new products), and Ravenloft (license expired).

Pendragon and BESM are still producing things and selling, but that's about it.

 

[Scribble]

Changeling was the first, followed by Trinity, and then finally Aberrant. All three released a product or two after the transition, then died because they produced less sales than they did under the main White Wolf imprint.

They also have several lines they published that just seem to have dried up... World of Warcraft RPG (no products on the horizon, and rumors that the license has expired), Everquest RPG (no new products for a long time), Secret of Zir'an (no new products for a long time, can't access Paragons Games site right now, so no idea if they're still around), Gamma World (no new products), and Ravenloft (license expired).

Pendragon and BESM are still producing things and selling, but that's about it.

The new changeling?

Ae you sure it has to do with the quality of the merchandise and not new editions?