D&D 4E 4E Race Anti-Survivor

[wedgeski]

Merging halflings and gnomes would solve the problems with both races.

Tremble at the ineffable rise of... the gnomeling!

 

[Szatany]

FIrst 4 races. I wouldn't have marked the halfling if I didn't see the picture of halfling cleric earlier today.

 

[mxyzplk]

In order:

1. Pull the gnome. It's too similar to dwarves and halflings.
2. Put the half-orc in an expansion.
3. Put the half-elf in the same expansion.

 

[Brennin Magalus]

As much as it pains me, I think the gnome could go. I would prefer to keep the gnome and get rid of the halfling though...

I would like to see them both go.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Gnome is obviously gone. They've been the least popular race forever, even though I'm rather fond of them.

Gnomes aren't least popular. They're just more polarizing. Folks either get it or don't, and love or hate them.

Seriously, dwarves are probably played less than anything for personality, but have some stats worth keeping. Halfings are mostly irritating to anyone that plays in teh same game with them, but they stay because of some tolkien throw-back.

Half-elves and half-orcs would be better served as lineage feats, IMO.

But yeah, I agree, Gnomes are mostly likely getting the axe. Though I'm sure they'll follow up quickly, if only for their Eberron importance. It may be a reason I don't get 4e though.

I'm really tired of the gnome haters setting out to ruin others fun. I don't want elves removed, just because I don't play them, but some people are such jerks that they have to take it out on others.

 

[Arkhandus]

If they axe Gnomes, the chances I'll never touch 4E at all, not even for a single fluff-book or a single campaign under some other DM, will drastically increase.

3.5E is barely tolerable enough that I'm willing to buy the Book of Nine Swords for its creative goodness and wuxia/anime-ish flavor. 4E will most likely be incompatible with 3.0 games, so I wouldn't even conceive of buying anything 4E just to port into my 3.0 games.

If there are no Gnomes in 4E, I won't bother to pick it up at all.

 

[Brennin Magalus]

[Gnomes] do in Eberron. That's is why I think they are a good choice to make non-core and publish a 4E version elsewhere (the 4E Eberron update, the 4E Races of Stone, etc).

That would probably work. Although, I think gnomes are an atavism from the days when dwarves could not be magic-users/mages/wizards.

 

[Vocenoctum]

That would probably work. Although, I think gnomes are an atavism from the days when dwarves could not be magic-users/mages/wizards.

I've never found gnomes to be comparable to dwarves at all, actually.

They'd add gnomes afterwards in some other product, but why wait? Heck, waiting for the Eberron update would be breaker enough, but the combination of taking 6 months to be able to play a game...

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Hm...did they actually say the race that was out of was out of the PHB itself, or the Core books?

My thinking is that what's being taken out, whatever it is, might show up in the MM. Unless its Core as a whole, then I guess we wait.

 

[Nellisir]

My bet is the gnome also, which pretty well stinks. I like gnomes. IMC, they're not dwarves and they're not elves.