Pygon said:DM: The bodak sends his gaze at you *rolls dice* He hit. You died.
Player: I don't get to save?
DM: No, 4e streamlined all of that. Here's a new character sheet, let me know when you have it ready... ok, your turn, Driz'ztylon.
That's one reason I wouldn't like saving throws baked into the attempt. To not even have a chance to roll your own dice to save your life is not a good thing. You don't get to roll your dice and say, "Ha! Eat that!"
hong said:In any case, the designers have mentioned instakills as one area they're explicitly targeting, so this issue (instant death without any opportunity to roll for it) may be moot.