If 4th edition isn't D&D, then there's no way in hell that AD&D is D&D. Isn't that the edition that had Spelljammer? There's no way that alien hippopeople or giant space hamsters is D&D.
Except that it is. And they do.
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Except AD&D is not D&D. Please note the A.
AD&D is AD&D.
Sure you can convert your fighting-man into a Swashbuckler kit class with a little work, but run your Fighting-man through
TSR Dungeons & Dragons Archive: Ravenloft: Hour of the Knife as is and see how he fairs?
AD&D had the decency to tell you is was not D&D.
Still people are so confused about the fact that AD&D and D&D are NOT the same thing, and 3rd edition dropping the "A" only added to those poor souls confusion.
D&D died off long ago and was replaced with AD&D.
AD&D was renamed and adjusted to HackMaster.
3rd turned AD&D on its head with its butt up in the air.
3.5 then spun it around 90 degrees.
Paizo is taking that and dressing it up with some pants so you aren't staring at the brown eye.
4th edition just shoves its foot into 3rd so that butt shown to everyone is worn like a shoe.
AD&D was/is not D&D.
Glad you understand that part at least, even if you may not understand why.
It is like they started with a cube and all its rough edges and due to child safety laws needed to make it more kid friendly and rounded off all those edges, and still want to call the resulting sphere a cube.
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So you at least clearly understand why then 4th edition is not D&D either.
I have yet to truly read about what makes 4th edition not D&D. I've seen a couple of things, such as roll roll roll your skill and Crouching Naruto Hidden Deelit (whatever the hell that is), but I'm pretty sure that these people aren't talking about the way that I play the game. Just that they've decided that they wanted to hate the system so much that they purposely played it and thought about wrong.
The way you play the game is not the way everyone else does.
Try talking some off the wall way of playing D&D into an RPGA event and see how long that lasts. Throw out your house rules and start over playing D&D.
You can play it however you want, but for clarification, you should say that you play some heavily houseruled D&D elements in something else, if like the above poster you are playing in the Forgotten Realms using White Wolf systems.
That would make you playing White Wolf's RPG, with the backstory of Forgotten Realms, not playing D&D.
(Don't know who does Exalted, but I think it is them right?)
The girl kicked my with red hair.
The girl with red hair kicked me.
The way you say it makes a word of difference in what you mean by what you say, and it is best to be clear about what you are talking about so that everyone understands.
Some people really must make Scott Rouse's job impossible if the "brand" (I can't believe I am defending that term or idea) is this diluted already.
There's another example of a game where there's a pretty big divide (maybe not as big as between D&D 3 & 4) in the fans, and cries of "they' ve ruined the game!" and "it's not really SR!" do actually ring out from time to time. Heck, I even remember Math threads about the game's core mechanic and how good or busted it was.
