D&D 4E 4E WotC way of saying your fired?

[SavageRobby]

Snipped from the excellent repost:

We heard some things that are very, very hard for a company to hear. We heard that our customers felt like we didn't trust them.

Interesting how things change. Instead of not trusting the customer, I think there is a growing segment that doesn't trust WoTC.

 

[DaveMage]

I must correct you here. 374 people have voted in the poll when I last looked.

There are 2,500 - 3,000 registered users online every day, drawn from a pool of 54,731 registered users.

That 30% is a tiny proportion of the people who come to the site, let alone the worldwide D&D community.

Nobody would base a decision on a sample size that small.

Cheers

I'm forgetting my stats - what % of a population is necessary for a valid statistical sample?

(In this case, of course, the only value to the poll is what EN Worlders think - not the population at large.)

 

[Plane Sailing]

I'm forgetting my stats - what % of a population is necessary for a valid statistical sample?

(In this case, of course, the only value to the poll is what EN Worlders think - not the population at large.)

Using an online sample size calculator, to get 95% confidence of responses within +/- 3% for the ~2800 people who are online each day, you would want to have 773 responses.

To get 95% confidence of responses within +/-3% for the whole population of registered users, you would want to have 1047 responses.

http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

Cheers

 

[BryonD]

Using an online sample size calculator, to get 95% confidence of responses within +/- 3% for the ~2800 people who are online each day, you would want to have 773 responses.

To get 95% confidence of responses within +/-3% for the whole population of registered users, you would want to have 1047 responses.

http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

Cheers

Yeah, but only 338 are needed for +/- 5%, which is acceptable.

The problem with this poll has nothing to do with the sample size and everything to do with it not being a representative population which is being sampled.

 

[DaveMage]

Yeah, but only 338 are needed for +/- 5%, which is acceptable.

The problem with this poll has nothing to do with the sample size and everything to do with it not being a representative population which is being sampled.

Don't you think it representes active EN World users (though nothing more)?

And, really, do we care about anyone else?

 

[BryonD]

Don't you think it representes active EN World users (though nothing more)?

And, really, do we care about anyone else?

No, it represents active ENWorlders who decided they were motivated to answer.

It may be that the DM rich ENWorld population is the best metric available. But I wouldn't bet on it.

And if they really want to know the right answer, then they don't need a poll. I'll just tell them.

 

[Scribble]

It's funny - Planescape was at a time when I was moving a little away from D&D, and it really brought home to me how little TSR represented what I wanted. I hated the art. I really, really hated the jargon. I really, really, really hated what they were doing to the planes that (mostly) I'd built up in my head based on early AD&D adventures and Gygax's later Gord books.

Cheers!

I have similar thoughts on Planescape... I wasn't a huge fan of the art. I just found it kind of boring and sloppy.

I thought the jargon was silly. Same thing I thought about the jargon in Shadowrun. But the jargon in planescape combined with TSR's G rating mandate made it almost seem like watching an edited for language movie...

The planes didn't bother me, but eh...

I know it is fun to be snarky and all, but I think you are confusing "That sounds cool" with "That sounds generic". It is pretty obvious based on the previews so far that WotC is going for a very specific flavor in its "fluff" -- one that has lots to do with Wire Fu Demonic Magical Superheroes. Not that 3.5 didn't do this too, in its latter stages -- but I am suggesting that the 3.5 way of doing things is actually not good. Well, not good for me, at least, and based on the "Thumbs Up/Thumbs Down" poll, about 30% of the people that come to this site.

I'm not sure how I see Wire Fu... Or Demonic Super Heros?

The new stuff they're doing allows for 1. An infinite number of planes to be inserted into the game. So now when a new plane idea pops up in dragon or a third party book I can use it... instead of looking at the great wheel and thinking... hrmmm won't that make things lop sided? Or making everything have to be a demi plane or transative plane.

Fairie Realms are in just about everything from LOTR to Early American folk tales... Almost every culture has some sort of "spirit world" associated with their folk lore. How much more generic can you get?

 

[DM_Jeff]

I'm just chiming in with nothing to contribute except this:

If 3.5 is my severance package, fire me. Please, fire me. I'll be fine.

Continue...

-DM Jeff

 

[Grog]

The problem with this poll has nothing to do with the sample size and everything to do with it not being a representative population which is being sampled.

Exactly.

The problem with online polls is not the sample size (many online polls can get a huge number of people answering), it's the fact that the sample isn't random, which skews the results.

 

[DaveMage]

Exactly.

The problem with online polls is not the sample size (many online polls can get a huge number of people answering), it's the fact that the sample isn't random, which skews the results.

In that case my poll is perfect as I have decided only to care about the opinions of the respondents!




First 100% accurate poll on the internet! Woohoo!


I win the interweb!