4th Edition and the Immortals Handbook

[Anabstercorian]

Sidereals might be able to Time-shift at will, which could be a form of teleportation.

I'm reminded of the Spiderman comic where he goes up against a deity, who proceeds to kick the out of him by striking him through the borders of the comic panels.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Howdy Anabstercorian matey!

I'm reminded of the Spiderman comic where he goes up against a deity, who proceeds to kick the out of him by striking him through the borders of the comic panels.

I'm curious, what comic/issue was that from?

In my capacity as a future writer of the Thor comic (speculative I know) I created a number of characters 'outside the box' with one of them being a character that lives in the spaces between the panels (an interdimensional being you could say).

 

[beej]

It has made me think that perhaps the solution (or part of the solution) is to treat the monster itself as the terrain, or another level of terrain. The monster might force you 'off' its terrain if it lands a blow.

I've been toying with this idea as well. I'm trying to build the moon-swallower dragon of my country's mythology, and Gargantuan seemed to lame for it. Currently, my designs are to have him as a 34th-level "solo" obstacle that moves.

I haven't playtested him yet, though, so I wouldn't know how he'd fare against adventurers yet.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Howdy beej mate!

I've been toying with this idea as well. I'm trying to build the moon-swallower dragon of my country's mythology, and Gargantuan seemed to lame for it. Currently, my designs are to have him as a 34th-level "solo" obstacle that moves.

Is this the Alklha monster? Or something else? I had the Alklha pegged somewhere in the Sidereal Tier (Solo 51-60). Maybe 34th-level could be the Aspect of the Alklha monster (like the Aspect of Leviathan in Elder Evils).

I haven't playtested him yet, though, so I wouldn't know how he'd fare against adventurers yet.

Let us know how that goes if you ever get round to it.

 

[beej]

Hey again, U_K!

In these parts (the good ol' Pearl of the Orient), we call it the Bakunawa. Wiki has some nice information tidbits about it, but you really have to dig into the theses in our University library if you want some good info. Since a dragon as a moon-swallower is rampant in many cultures, though (albeit in different forms), one could assume that my Bakunawa is but an aspect of the whole idea.

Let us know how that goes if you ever get round to it.

Will do. Pardon me if I don't repost my tentative build here, though; I plan on putting him up in an e-book. As an obstacle, though, I think he's immune to stunning (though you can damage him), so that's one problem down.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey again, U_K!

Howdy beej mate!

Lets hope you get to read this. I got timed out of ENWorld twice today already.

In these parts (the good ol' Pearl of the Orient), we call it the Bakunawa. Wiki has some nice information tidbits about it, but you really have to dig into the theses in our University library if you want some good info. Since a dragon as a moon-swallower is rampant in many cultures, though (albeit in different forms), one could assume that my Bakunawa is but an aspect of the whole idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakunawa

Very cool monster...very cool indeed. Although Moon Eater is somewhat a red herring...though even thats flavourful.

You have now officially sparked my curiousity in Philippine Mythology.

Will do. Pardon me if I don't repost my tentative build here, though; I plan on putting him up in an e-book.

Thats okay mate!

As an obstacle, though, I think he's immune to stunning (though you can damage him), so that's one problem down.

Thats the big one out of the way.

 

[Axolotl]

Howdy!

Hi!

At the moment it may be prudent to have three mini-adventures.

Divine Spark, Portfolio, Pantheon.

Seems appropriate.

At the end of the quest the character could be 31st-level (ie. 1st-level Immortal)

Ok, that clears a few things up.

You gain portfolios as follows.

1st Portfolio: 31-35
2nd Portfolio: 36-40
3rd portfolio 41-45
Fourth Portfolio: 46-50

Will it be possible to gain double portfolios?

There are no classes beyond 30th. Only Portfolios. There are no portfolios beyond 50th, only dimensions.

But the portfolios/dimensions function as classes right?

There are no divine/cosmic abilities (as such). You gain powers based on which Portfolio(s) you take. These powers will be the defacto Divine/Cosmic Abilities.

Will there be any divine equivelent to feats?

By default, I'll be statting out the main entries as Solo Monsters.

Are there any adjustments beyond that?

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi!

Howdy Axolotl matey!

Will it be possible to gain double portfolios?

You can take the same portfolio up to four times, or four seperate portfolios, or any combination thereof.

But the portfolios/dimensions function as classes right?

Correct.

Will there be any divine equivelent to feats?

Yes, these will be called feats and listed by Tier.

Are there any adjustments beyond that?

Not sure exactly what you mean?

 

[Pssthpok]

Hey hey, UK!

So, when you say you'll be writing up the main entries as Solo monsters, you mean with the -9 "level adjustment" or without?

i.e. is Moradin a level 37 Solo/Level 46 Standard?

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey hey, UK!

Whassup Pssthpok!

I can has rhymez too!

So, when you say you'll be writing up the main entries as Solo monsters, you mean with the -9 "level adjustment" or without?

i.e. is Moradin a level 37 Solo/Level 46 Standard?

I think in all cases Solo monsters are more interesting encounters.

I mean if we use Moradin as an example, if we design him as a Level 46 standard encounter then hes almost certainly going to get lost in the shuffle of that encounter...let alone the adventure itself!

Solo monsters also get more powers and do more damage respectively. They are just more special, they are important encounter, or even adventure set pieces.

Thus, I would design Moradin as a Level 37 (or did they initially say Level 38 I can't remember?) Solo encounter.

Those who wanted to use Moradin as a henchman or even amongst a group of deities can easily convert him to an Elite, Standard or even Minion Encounter should that be required.