Planescape 5 New D&D Books Coming in 2023 -- Including Planescape!

At today's Wizards Presents event, hosts Jimmy Wong, Ginny Di, and Sydnee Goodman announced the 2023 line-up of D&D books, which featured something old, something new, and an expansion of a fan favorite.

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The first of the five books, Keys from the Golden Vault, will arrive in winter 2023. At Tuesday's press preview, Chris Perkins, Game Design Architect for D&D, described it as “Ocean’s Eleven meets D&D” and an anthology of short adventures revolving around heists, which can be dropped into existing campaigns.

In Spring 2023, giants get a sourcebook just like their traditional rivals, the dragons, did in Fizban's Treasury of Dragons. Bigby Presents: Glory of the Giants will be a deep dive into hill, frost, fire, cloud, and storm giants, plus much more.

Summer 2023 will have two releases. The Book of Many Things is a collection of creatures, locations, and other player-facing goodies related to that most famous D&D magic item, the Deck of Many Things. Then “Phandelver Campaign” will expand the popular Lost Mine of Phandelver from the D&D Starter Set into a full campaign tinged with cosmic horror.

And then last, but certainly not least, in Fall 2023, WotC revives another classic D&D setting – Planescape. Just like Spelljammer: Adventures in Space, Planescape will be presented as a three-book set containing a setting guide, bestiary, and adventure campaign in a slipcase. Despite the Spelljammer comparison they did not confirm whether it would also contain a DM screen.

More information on these five titles will be released when we get closer to them in date.
 
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Beth Rimmels

Beth Rimmels

And now that I actually physically have it (instead of just on D&D Beyond), there's one simple solution to this if they continue in this format for Planescape: drop the DM screen. It's half as big as any of the books, and ~32 pages or so could have made all the difference between an OK product (and, in my opinion, yes, it's OK, and not the utter disaster some are making it out to be) and a complete product.

Either that, or just make it larger overall, but that would likely drive the price up even more.
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It's still over a year out, so that's presumably a fixable issue at this point. Either do thicker books, or just go back to the one-book model. Given that the big complaint about the Spelljammer set is about the page count and missing important info as a result, they should have time to take that feedback for Planescape.
There's a QR code in the SpellJamer book that takes you to a survey. Hopefully people have used this to voice their complaints.
 



doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
It's still over a year out, so that's presumably a fixable issue at this point. Either do thicker books, or just go back to the one-book model. Given that the big complaint about the Spelljammer set is about the page count and missing important info as a result, they should have time to take that feedback for Planescape.
Yeah for me, a DMs Screen isn’t much value, but we will find out if I’m in the minority or not when Planescape comes out.
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
And we're back to my extreme distaste for publically-traded companies.
Yeah, I’m right there with you.

However, I don’t think that wizards are being made to make certain kinds of products right now. They’re practically taking over the parent company at this point, and seem to not have a leash, much less a short one. They are making the products that they think will please the broadest segment of the community and draw in and then keep new players, and they’re making things they enjoy making.

Profit is part of the calculation, sure. That’s true for every game studio with bills to pay. But when your weakest books stay in decently high ranks on Amazon years after release, the lights aren’t in any danger. If they both wanted to write the books some folks are clamoring for, and thought even a large chunk of the player base was also clamoring for them, and didn’t see 3pp products that do deep dives they don’t want to do as assets, rather than competition, they’d be giving me a DM-centered lore deep dive on Rashamen.

Or the people of the Anaurach updated to be less...let’s say problematic and hopefully avoid the political debate.

But instead, what hits with the current community is books that give and overview of a setting or theme with brief rundowns and hooks, evocative art, advice for running and roleplaying in a type of game, and DM and player facing mechanical bits to add to our games.
 

dave2008

Legend
Does right now count as during the run of 5e?
How are they being unfriendly to 3PP. I mean the DMsGuild, SRD, OGL, and free Basic Rules are all a great help to 3PP content providers and things WotC did not have to do (see 4e). Not to mention the HUGE amount of 3PP 5e settings and KickStarters. How can you reasonable determine they are anything but surprisingly generous to 3PP?
 

Micah Sweet

Legend
For the record, I misspoke in anger regarding WotC's attitude toward 3PP. I mean, most third party developers will change their product to match with this stuff, which they wouldn't do if they just made a proper edition change like I prefer, but I can't really blame WotC for that.

What I really have a problem with is the community attitude towards 3PP, which I often find dismissive and rude. Some people persist in bad mouthing 5e product that didn't come from the IP holder, as if holding a content license ensures a superior product.
 

Levistus's_Leviathan

5e Freelancer
For the record, I misspoke in anger regarding WotC's attitude toward 3PP. I mean, most third party developers will change their product to match with this stuff, which they wouldn't do if they just made a proper edition change like I prefer, but I can't really blame WotC for that.

What I really have a problem with is the community attitude towards 3PP, which I often find dismissive and rude. Some people persist in bad mouthing 5e product that didn't come from the IP holder, as if holding a content license ensures a superior product.
Why are you angry at people for preferring products made by WotC? And I don't see people in this thread saying WotC are the only ones that can make good D&D content.
 




DEFCON 1

Legend
Supporter
Why are you angry at people for preferring products made by WotC? And I don't see people in this thread saying WotC are the only ones that can make good D&D content.
Heh heh... well, not to put words in @Micah Sweet 's mouth... but plenty of times I see people post that talk about how they refuse to even consider 3PP products because they just dismiss out of hand the possibility that 3PP have actually been playtested and balanced. So while people may not be outright insulting... dismissive is the word I might choose-- as though the idea that independent designers have actual brains and can make quality product is impossible and that the only people who can make balanced D&D material is Wizards of the Coast.

When you couple that with the fact that those same people will often then get rather crabby that WotC isn't actually producing the material they specifically want nor do they think they should have make their own fixes or product to get what they want because "Why should I do WotC's job for them?!?"... we're left with a perpetual cycle of invectives here on the boards.
 
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Micah Sweet

Legend
Heh heh... well, not to put words in @Micah Sweet 's mouth... but plenty of times I see people post that talk about how they refuse to even consider 3PP products because they just dismiss of hand the possibility that 3PP have actually been playtested and balanced. So while people may not be outright insulting... dismissive is the word I might choose-- as though the idea that independent designers have actual brains and can make quality product is impossible and that the only people who can make balanced D&D material is Wizards of the Coast.

When you couple that with the fact that those same people will often then get rather crabby that WotC isn't actually producing the material they specifically want nor do they think they should have make their own fixes or product to get what they want because "Why should I do WotC's job for them?!?"... we're left with a perpetual cycle of invectives here on the boards.
That is EXACTLY what I am talking about.
 

Quickleaf

Legend
Heh heh... well, not to put words in @Micah Sweet 's mouth... but plenty of times I see people post that talk about how they refuse to even consider 3PP products because they just dismiss of hand the possibility that 3PP have actually been playtested and balanced. So while people may not be outright insulting... dismissive is the word I might choose-- as though the idea that independent designers have actual brains and can make quality product is impossible and that the only people who can make balanced D&D material is Wizards of the Coast.

When you couple that with the fact that those same people will often then get rather crabby that WotC isn't actually producing the material they specifically want nor do they think they should have make their own fixes or product to get what they want because "Why should I do WotC's job for them?!?"... we're left with a perpetual cycle of invectives here on the boards.
Yeah, there's more vitriol on here than I remember, or more than usual. Maybe it's just the temper of the Internet these days. Maybe it's some sort of temporary madness related to OneD&D.

It's really unfortunate, because my excitement to engage with others on ENWorld has really diminished because of it. I often find myself bracing or having to remind myself to thicken up my skin to endure some needlessly unkind statement or sniping for no good reason. It's like, I really would rather not report somebody or get an admin involved. That does not make my day at all, and I'd rather be the better man.

Can't we just lean on our better angels more?

I've stopped using Reddit and other forums almost completely too, same reason.

About the only places I feel truly comfortable online these days are Discord servers with folks I've made personal connections with.
 

Zaukrie

New Publisher
Yeah, there's more vitriol on here than I remember, or more than usual. Maybe it's just the temper of the Internet these days. Maybe it's some sort of temporary madness related to OneD&D.

It's really unfortunate, because my excitement to engage with others on ENWorld has really diminished because of it. I often find myself bracing or having to remind myself to thicken up my skin to endure some needlessly unkind statement or sniping for no good reason. It's like, I really would rather not report somebody or get an admin involved. That does not make my day at all, and I'd rather be the better man.

Can't we just lean on our better angels more?

I've stopped using Reddit and other forums almost completely too, same reason.

About the only places I feel truly comfortable online these days are Discord servers with folks I've made personal connections with.
This site and a sports site, very much so. I'm not sure I can go to a particular sports site I used to visit daily anymore.
 

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