D&D General 5E species with further choices and differences

[Remathilis]

I don't see why it would be a tax if you get elven features that are in line with power level of a Origin feat.

The argument was if you are an elf, you can pick an origin feat of your choice (such as magic initate or lucky) but if you want to be a half-elf, you sacrifice that origin feat for your species traits. Which means even if the "elf hybrid" feat is equivalent to other origin feats, you are still sacrificing those extra abilities just to get your full species traits.

You may not agree with it (I don't) but that's what was argued when the whole hybrid species debate was happening.

 

[Horwath]

The argument was if you are an elf, you can pick an origin feat of your choice (such as magic initate or lucky) but if you want to be a half-elf, you sacrifice that origin feat for your species traits. Which means even if the "elf hybrid" feat is equivalent to other origin feats, you are still sacrificing those extra abilities just to get your full species traits.

You may not agree with it (I don't) but that's what was argued when the whole hybrid species debate was happening.

maybe we can add that you can gain that feat later, with or without +1 ASI attached.
but yes, it can be looked that way, but it also can open up additional feat options(elven accuracy)

 

[Stormonu]

An in-built race/species/background improvement or unlocked ability at 3rd, 5th, 10th and 15th would be appreciated. Especially if they weren't combat-focused.

 

[CreamCloud0]

I don't see why it would be a tax if you get elven features that are in line with power level of a Origin feat.

well, i can either play an elf with a background feat or a human with one, but if i want to play a half-elf i have to give up my background feat to BE a half-elf in the first place, one of equivalent power of the elf or human, methinks that certainly falls under the definition of a feat tax.

 

[Horwath]

well, i can either play an elf with a background feat or a human with one, but if i want to play a half-elf i have to give up my background feat to BE a half-elf in the first place, one of equivalent power of the elf or human, methinks that certainly falls under the definition of a feat tax.

as human with elven feat, you might look completely human but with elven features added.
that might be RP important.

or you do not to RP an elf, but Perception, Darkvision and less sleep sounds fun to add.

 

[CreamCloud0]

as human with elven feat, you might look completely human but with elven features added.
that might be RP important.

sorry, but i'm failing to connect how that relates to what i said? and when have you ever needed a specific mechanical configuration of your character to claim your half-elf passes as human?

or you do not to RP an elf, but Perception, Darkvision and less sleep sounds fun to add.

uh, can i get a second run by on that sentence please.