D&D 5E A Flesh to Stone Creature is Not an Object?

[DRF]

I don't see the issue either. The Petrified condition does what you seem to be after, so why complicate things further?

A petrified creature is transformed, along with any nonmagical object it is wearing or carrying, into a solid inanimate substance (usually stone). Its weight increases by a factor of ten, and it ceases aging.

If you want to treat a petrified creature as an object in some situation then nobody is stopping you. I'm sure there are plenty of situations where it makes sense to change the ruling, but that's sort of the game.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I think it's in the context of attacking the petrified creature, a Rock to Mud spell, and suchlike effects.

 

[Lanefan]

[MENTION=6818233]Enevhar Aldarion[/MENTION] has this exactly right, as far as I'm concerned. Turned to stone means turned to stone: Rock to Mud will kill you outright, something that can snap bits of you off leaves you without those bits even if you make it back to flesh, and I don't even want to think about what Stone Shape could do to you.

But, if there's a bright side it's this: stone is pretty much immune to fire*, cold, sonic attacks, gas of any kind, drowning, mental attacks of any kind, and poison; never mind you can exist without air, food or drink for a period of time probably measured in eras. Acid and sledgehammers are probably the only things you'll ever really have to worry about, though lightning is gonna hurt a bit if it hits you.

* - though if someone drops you into lava you're likely going to melt before long...

 

[ccs]

I still don't see any issue. Nor do I see any confusing parts or nonsense.


It's magic, they are a statue not a corpse they don't need to breathe.

And what will take 78 rounds. I don't get anything about your comment.

Suffocation rules. 78 rounds is the max # until death for a PC with a 20 Con per the suffocation rules.
So if the spell does exactly & only what it says, a petrified creature will die as they're tuned into inanimate stone.
Because niether the spell nor condition says anything about not needing to breathe. The key here being inanimate as that means your lungs don't move (if they did you wouldn't be inanimate....)

Do you REALLY think that this logical train of rules is what JC intends?
No. Because that's stupid. Thus he's spewing non-sense.

 

[jaelis]

Suffocation rules. 78 rounds is the max # until death for a PC with a 20 Con per the suffocation rules.
So if the spell does exactly & only what it says, a petrified creature will die as they're tuned into inanimate stone.
Because niether the spell nor condition says anything about not needing to breathe. The key here being inanimate as that means your lungs don't move (if they did you wouldn't be inanimate....)

Do you REALLY think that this logical train of rules is what JC intends?
No. Because that's stupid. Thus he's spewing non-sense.

I think everyone will agree that a petrified creature doesn’t need to breath. I don’t see that it follows that the creature becomes an object. The petrified condition says you become inanimate, that covers such things as I’d read it.

 

[CapnZapp]

why would this spell not turn a creature into an object?

Because effects that turn you back into flesh needs to work. Few spells work on objects.

(Ninjaed by skidace)

 

[CapnZapp]

JCs ruling makes sense to me. Like you say, the spell does what it says, and it doesn’t say that it turns you into an object. I don’t have any problem with a stone creature being a creature. I guess if that doesn’t make sense to you though then you’d play it the other way.

It makes sense that weapons/monsters that deal double damage to objects (siege monsters) make short work of petrified statues.

 

[CapnZapp]

Of course, since the petrified victim is turned into a solid inanimate substance, breathing will become really really difficult....

Who would claim a petrified statue needs to breathe...?

 

[CapnZapp]

I don't even want to think about what Stone Shape could do to you.

Give you longer legs? Bigger chest muscles if you see what I mean, nudge nudge, wink wink?

 

[CapnZapp]

Do you REALLY think that this logical train of rules is what JC intends?
No. Because that's stupid. Thus he's spewing non-sense.

The only one spewing non-sense here is you.