D&D General A glimpse at WoTC's current view of Rule 0

[KYRON45]

Now we have to add percentages to this thing?

Why is it that every 'consequence' also punishes the player with homework?

I think in most cases what happens to whom and how comes down to the context of the moment.
Is the DM trying to show you that the world is out to kill you? If so i like the idea of the aging from the ghost being relative to the species. If the DM is just crunching numbers to get to the next pile of treasure than follow the rules a written and the demi-humans have nothing to fear from such things. Neither way is wrong.

 

[Thomas Shey]

They always have a say but their say is a veto. It's not a policy making say. Trying a run a game by committee would be a disaster.

Overgeneralize much?

When it comes to houseruling, I've effectively allowed my players to have almost as much say as I do for decades now, and somehow it hasn't managed to wreck my games.

 

[Emerikol]

When you roll a history/knowledge check to find out information about a thing so you know how to interact with that thing; is that meta gaming?

No. In character, it is your character recalling facts the character knows that the player does not.

A PC jumping in front of an attack to take a hit for a party member is what heros do....is it out of the ordinary for an adventuring 600 year old elf to know what ghosts are capable of?

It would depend on the campaign and the experience of the elf. If it were obvious the elf couldn't know about ghosts, then it would be if the player acted on player knowledge.

Metagaming sometimes allows for great moments in gaming.

Your two examples, neither of which may be metagaming, haven't convinced me metagaming is good.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Still hilarious that it just happens on a randomly rolled birthday and that's how the Rules As Physics edition presented it.

The coarser a rules set is in how it handles things, the more that sort of thing is going to come up if you're trying to do representation at all.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Let us not forget that magic in D&D is not only powered by a distinct lack of an economic system, but puns. You cast detect thoughts by literally paying a penny for their thoughts.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Now we have to add percentages to this thing?

Why is it that every 'consequence' also punishes the player with homework?

I think calling "You age X percent of your racial lifespan" "homework" is at least going with a very minimalist view of what amount of math players are supposed to tolerate.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Let us not forget that magic in D&D is not only powered by a distinct lack of an economic system, but puns. You cast detect thoughts by literally paying a penny for their thoughts.

Honestly, that sort of symbolic association seems as sensible a thing to have in magic as anything else.

 

[KYRON45]

No. In character, it is your character recalling facts the character knows that the player does not.



It would depend on the campaign and the experience of the elf. If it were obvious the elf couldn't know about ghosts, then it would be if the player acted on player knowledge.


Your two examples, neither of which may be metagaming, haven't convinced me metagaming is good.

One PC saving another PC isn't a good reason to metagame?
We play different games my friend. As long as we are both enjoying the way we play than its all good.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Honestly, that sort of symbolic association seems as sensible a thing to have in magic as anything else.

But it's a pun in a language that's not even in the settings.

Coppers aren't even called pennies!

 

[Micah Sweet]

Now we have to add percentages to this thing?

Why is it that every 'consequence' also punishes the player with homework?

If that's the system you want to use, I'm fine with the DM doing the homework here.

Not every comment secretly means the DM wants to give the players grief.