A proper skill-monkey
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StreamOfTheSky
Adventurer
Nymph's Kiss is the best option. Only other feat I can think of is in C.Adv., forgot the name, because it sucks so much it's not worth remembering. 
Basically, pay a feat, gain 5 skill points. Did I floor you with awesomeness there? Thought not.
EDIT: OMG, can't beleive I forgot! In Races of Eberron, they have racial sub. levels of Rogue for Changelings. These (up to 3, you pick the ones you want) levels give 10 + int skill points. One of them, most happily, is Rogue 1, which means it gets multiplied x4! That first level trades Trapfinding for a slew of semi-useful social skill abilities, including shorter disguise donning time, take 10 on some skills, and so forth.
Now...by being a Changeling you're forfeiting playing a +int race, so there is some drawback in terms of "getting as many skill points as I possibly can."
Basically, pay a feat, gain 5 skill points. Did I floor you with awesomeness there? Thought not.
EDIT: OMG, can't beleive I forgot! In Races of Eberron, they have racial sub. levels of Rogue for Changelings. These (up to 3, you pick the ones you want) levels give 10 + int skill points. One of them, most happily, is Rogue 1, which means it gets multiplied x4! That first level trades Trapfinding for a slew of semi-useful social skill abilities, including shorter disguise donning time, take 10 on some skills, and so forth.
Now...by being a Changeling you're forfeiting playing a +int race, so there is some drawback in terms of "getting as many skill points as I possibly can."
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Tomalak
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I must admit, the Changeling idea does sound interesting. But the character does have some traits I will not change, because they are as much a part of the concept as anything else. The character is human, for myriad reasons. I'll have to see if the DM allows book of exalted deeds, though. Nymph's Kiss sounds perfect.
freebiewitz
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Use rope in combat is pretty damn useful, use it to entangle or trip enemies. Maybe even lasso them or their items etc.
Human rogue with Nymph's kiss and education at 1st level. With an int of 14 you would be at your 12 skill points/level. I would also suggest knowledge devotion from Complete champion if you are already going to be pumping ranks into knowledge skills. Roll a knowledge check based on creature type to get an insight bonus to attack and damage.
You can also burn up 2 skill points (you could drop the skill points from the knowledge skills that you give yourself the +1 in from education) at some point to get the collector of stories skill trick from complete scoundrel. It gives you a +5 competence bonus on knowledge checks to discern a weakness of a creature using a knowledge skill. As a DM I would say that covers the knowledge devotion feat.
You can also burn up 2 skill points (you could drop the skill points from the knowledge skills that you give yourself the +1 in from education) at some point to get the collector of stories skill trick from complete scoundrel. It gives you a +5 competence bonus on knowledge checks to discern a weakness of a creature using a knowledge skill. As a DM I would say that covers the knowledge devotion feat.
Tomalak
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Yeah, my DM keeps giving me "I don't have that book", and "There will be opportunities later for you to alter your character". The last one is "You're trying to do too much. Just pick one or two things he's good at". I swear this man deserves a good kicking. *sigh* thanks for all your help guys, you've been great.
Quite simply, they're not obsolete. There are things in the class books that didn't get updated into 3.5 form in the Complete (or any other) books- PrCls, weapons, spells, feats, etc.
