A technical question about psions....

[Magus_Jerel]

When dealing with magic jar - this is fun... lots of fun.

The character can still "act" per se - IF they have line of effect on something. So - if the character manages to somehow see outide the crystal - and then manifests Mind Switch - the victim of the mind switch is then moved into the "crystal body" provided as a temporary place by the magic jar spell. Your str, dex, and con are treated as non abilities when in the crystal - essentially 0, so those powers are out.

Thus, if he manifests it on the bad guy - this reverses the magic jar spell by putting the bad guy into the crystal - and returning the psion to his body. If the psion manifests mind switch on something OTHER than the controller of the magic jar effect - then the psion's mind goes into that target - and the target is put into the magic jar.

This could lead to a whole bunch of body hopping - until SOMEBODY throws a magic circle against evil turned inward on the focus crystal.

 

[FANGO]

Well, I don't know a whole bunch about the various psionic powers out there, but if this character is a telepath, as long as he has chosen his pwoers well, I would imagine that he would have a way to get out of this particular situation. It seems to me that a telepath would often have some clairsentience abilities to complement their telepathy, and telepathy and clairsentience are the things that would help you out the most here. Even if you were on another plane, it seems to me that there must be some 7th level or lower power out there that could overcome that obstacle.

...Basically, the psion is probably your worst choice to trap in a magic jar, since the very downfall of the psion (or at least the mental-based one, like a telepath is) is that they don't have very good physical abilities. Once you put him into a place that he doesn't have to worry about his physical weaknesses, you're pretty much screwed.

 

[Grumbar Dorunn]

So we have one person who says tha psion couldn't do anything, and 2 who say he could still act if he has the right powers...

Any others comments?
Please...

 

[Grumbar Dorunn]

Please help me!!!


May the psion trapped with a majic jar spell unable to do anything? Is he still able to do some of his powers?

 

[Benben]

Please help me!!!


May the psion trapped with a majic jar spell unable to do anything? Is he still able to do some of his powers?

What type of psion is he? If you want lots of help give us an idea of his power list.

The rules are really open here. Magic Jar in the SRD really doesn't cover the condition of the person trapped in the jar. It states that it steals the soul of the target.

At this point we're into metaphysics. Are sorcerer magics powered by the soul? If so then they could be potential casters too. Or psions could be creatures of the mind, and not the soul and therefore be as powerless as a fighter.

Rules wise you need to remember that the target is trapped *inside* the gem. Most powers will be blocked by the Live of Effect rules. If the psion has abilites that don't require line of effect then he should be able to use them.

 

[Grumbar Dorunn]

Here are the powers of the psion telpath I'm talking about:

level 0 (talents):
missive
far hand
lesser natural armor
my light
float
control shadow
catfall
telepathic projection

level 1:
disable
biocurrent
call weaponry
cham person

level 2:
inflict pain
invisibility
knock
body adjustment

level 3:
lesser domination
fly
crisis of breath

level 4:
mindwipe
inertial barrier
astral construct IV

level 5:
greater domination
teleport
astral construct V

level 6:
mind switch
disintegrate

I think that is all, if the informations I got last time from my player were ok.

Hope this help.

 

[Benben]

He looks trapped to me. He has no way to sense outside of his gem/plane.

 

[Grumbar Dorunn]

Are you sure about that?
I want to trapped him!!!!!!!!