Just to be clear, I am not laughing at you. I am laughing with you, in agreement. It's friggen unbelievable. I have not seen contortions like this since I watched a contortionist on America's Got Talent.This thread is unbelievable
Ah, the dreaded 'agenna' tactic. I believe I have proved that the Battlemaster is indeed underpowered. The spreadsheets provided to counter my case actually prove it.
Using TWF insteead of Duelling actually makes the Battlemaster worse off.
I guess you forgot Polearm Mastery.
You have been very careful in not mentioning the Paladin.
Cool! I will take a look at it and thanks for the time and help!@dave2008 @FrogReaver @Mort @Mistwell
I made a shiny new spreadsheet here. I added Paladin Smites, sneak attack, and toggles for feats, and coded in a lot of stuff so that you can just change what's in the yellow, and everything else should automatically populate. It looks for exact string matches in the fields for class, subclass and fighting style (enter one of Dueling, TWF, GWF, Archery, or none; I think case-sensitive), and looks for the word 'yes' in the feat fields.
Enjoy! There are almost certainly typos, so would love it if you found them! (Though some of the formulas are excessively complex)
If the results are right or very nearly right, it demonstrates an impressive degree of balance across the martial classes at level 11 with a standard number of combats, rests, and lengths of combat. It turns out that distracting strike is worth more than GWM, if you compare the Champion with PAM and GWM to the Battlemaster PAM using spear and shield.
That is quite a spreadsheet - it is going to take some time to digest. PS can you provide a link to download so that we can play around with it?@dave2008 @FrogReaver @Mort @Mistwell
I made a shiny new spreadsheet here. I added Paladin Smites, sneak attack, and toggles for feats, and coded in a lot of stuff so that you can just change what's in the yellow, and everything else should automatically populate. It looks for exact string matches in the fields for class, subclass and fighting style (enter one of Dueling, TWF, GWF, Archery, or none; I think case-sensitive), and looks for the word 'yes' in the feat fields.
Enjoy! There are almost certainly typos, so would love it if you found them! (Though some of the formulas are excessively complex)
If the results are right or very nearly right, it demonstrates an impressive degree of balance across the martial classes at level 11 with a standard number of combats, rests, and lengths of combat. It turns out that distracting strike is worth more than GWM, if you compare the Champion with PAM and GWM to the Battlemaster PAM using spear and shield.
Cool! I will take a look at it and thanks for the time and help!
PS What is PAM?
Actually what are PAM; CBE; EA; & SS? Heck, any change you could add a legend?@dave2008 @FrogReaver @Mort @Mistwell
I made a shiny new spreadsheet here. I added Paladin Smites, sneak attack, and toggles for feats, and coded in a lot of stuff so that you can just change what's in the yellow, and everything else should automatically populate. It looks for exact string matches in the fields for class, subclass and fighting style (enter one of Dueling, TWF, GWF, Archery, or none; I think case-sensitive), and looks for the word 'yes' in the feat fields.
Enjoy! There are almost certainly typos, so would love it if you found them! (Though some of the formulas are excessively complex)
If the results are right or very nearly right, it demonstrates an impressive degree of balance across the martial classes at level 11 with a standard number of combats, rests, and lengths of combat. It turns out that distracting strike is worth more than GWM, if you compare the Champion with PAM and GWM to the Battlemaster PAM using spear and shield.