About Reveille

[catsclaw227]

OK, so last night when I read that the whole thing was a hoax, I had to step away and sleep on it before coming back to post. I have read through this whole thread and everyone's comments.

When I first read about his coma, it brought back memories. I went through a very difficult coma with someone who was one of my best friends (if not the best friend). I had an emotional moment with my wife, discussing my experience as well as her experience going into a coma when she was 13 years old in Russia and found out she had Diabetes, Type I.

In the original thread, just after we got the "Rev woke up" message, I posted that I had a cynical thought that it was a hoax. I had to fluff it up, sugar-coat it, and dance around the fact that I though it was fake, but I was SO VERY GLAD it wasn't fake. In that post, I mentioned my friend, and I was relieved that it wasn't a hoax and that my mixed emotions weren't justified.

EDIT: I was really worried that I would be crucified by posting my hoax concerns, even though I buffered it.


Then Rev posted about how he needed to stay in the hospital for a little bit and then do physical therapy. This felt like confirmation that my hoax fears were happily unjustified.

Now I feel ticked off, angry at Rev (and, apparently, the many incarnations of Rev), and I agree with the permaban. I don't know why he did it, what his motivations were, but that doesn't matter.

I gleaned from Umbran's post that Rev and the moderators disagreed about whether his reasons justified their moderation actions.

This gives me the impression that this was another social experiment and we were the rats.

Not funny, not appropriate, not cool.

That was before the HIVE's side investigation revealed that a good deal of the people who posted there never existed. They were all alts. of Rev. A lot of us had our suspicions but we never wanted to investigate before last night..

Sadly, our little corner of ENWorld is the most devastated.

I don't think anyone can say their little corner was "most devastated". The coma story apparently hit a lot of people in very personal ways. There is no "hurt more than other people" thing going on here.

BTW, isn't a "side investigation" by a bunch of forum members that reveals the identity of community members a violation of the privacy we agreed to?

 

[Relique du Madde]

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BTW, isn't a "side investigation" by a bunch of forum members that reveals the identity of community members a violation of the privacy we agreed to?

Not in this case. The HIVE gave a list of suspected possible alts to the staff. Each of these alts correlated to a period of time where Rev vanished and a new member started posting. Many of those "suspected alts" lost their avatars and community supporter status, which means only one thing: They must have been Rev's alts.

Everyone who posted within the HIVE during the last 6 months became a target to one of his alts which were parodies based on different aspects of the individual. (One of those suspected alts as a parody of my user name and was "a lurker infatuated with me").

He tricked us. Manipulated us. Made fools of us and drug us into his sick little game. For what? Who knows. Sure I was willing to give him a second chance. Not anymore. The damage he done to ENWorld's small little side community in the HIVE made things extremely personal. We all trusted him and his those suspected alts of his, and now discovered that some of our suspicions were true. That many of those individuals could have been cooked up be him.

Yeah, pe played a game with everyone here. Most of you only dealt with this last month long affair. However a group of a dozen or so posters here were subject to it for who knows how long.

 

[frankthedm]

BTW, isn't a "side investigation" by a bunch of forum members that reveals the identity of community members a violation of the privacy we agreed to?

First off most message board record poster's IPs for the mods and admins. Unless Reveille was ghosting his IP Address, mods can find who's posting and where they live.

Which indeed raises OTHER questions about how much the mods knew about the hive issue prior to this.

 

[Raven Crowking]

I have no idea what his motives were, but I am more sad than angry.

RC

 

[Blackrat]

I don't think anyone can say their little corner was "most devastated". The coma story apparently hit a lot of people in very personal ways. There is no "hurt more than other people" thing going on here.

Yeah, I agree with you on this one.

BTW, isn't a "side investigation" by a bunch of forum members that reveals the identity of community members a violation of the privacy we agreed to?

Yes, that would propably be a violation. But this investigation was only instigated by us, and actually performed by admins/mods as Relique already said. We only gathered our suspicions and PM'd them to Piratecat. He was kind enough to tell us that most of our suspicions were correct.

 

[Bront]

Don't lecture me. Don't crucify me. Sure, I was willing to give him a second chance. That was before the HIVE's side investigation revealed that a good deal of the people who posted there never existed. They were all alts. of Rev. A lot of us had our suspicions but we never wanted to investigate before last night..

Sadly, our little corner of ENWorld is the most devastated.

First of all, I was simply countering your point.

Second of all, from a moderator/admin point of view, I was explaining the thought process that goes into a permaban. I had no say in this (I deal with PbP stuff exclusively here at ENW), but in my view PC did the right thing even if nothing else other than this had surfaced.

 

[jdrakeh]

Thank you for the revelation and explanation, PirateCat. This is at once an infuriating, sad, and unfortunate situation. I think you made the right call, though. There simply isn't any excuse good enough to justify what Charles did here.

 

[jaerdaph]

Funny thing (for me) is, while I never once thought this was a hoax and genuinely believed that Rev was in coma, I couldn't help but keep thinking to myself that Rev's girlfriend Mandy was a little... off.

 

[Umbran]

I gleaned from Umbran's post that Rev and the moderators disagreed about whether his reasons justified their moderation actions.

I wouldn't read into details too much, as that's not quite it. Let me be as clear as I can:

That he did it at all suggests that, in some way, he felt it was okay to do so. That he has been banned says that we did not agree. That's as far as that goes, really.

I said it to display that we have a fundamental conflict of interest regarding his reasons. We won't put ourselves in the position of having anyone claim we misrepresented him - for good reason, we will not represent him at all.

 

[Umbran]

Yes, that would propably be a violation. But this investigation was only instigated by us, and actually performed by admins/mods as Relique already said. We only gathered our suspicions and PM'd them to Piratecat. He was kind enough to tell us that most of our suspicions were correct.

To be clear - in cases like this, banning alternate accounts that we can find is part of standard operating procedure. We merely got more of them more quickly this way.