About Reveille

[EATherrian]

Yes, we did. However, we will not engage in a "telephone game" here, especially when we clearly disagree on whether it was appropriate. If you want to know his side of the story, you'll have to ask him.

Similarly, no, we are not going to discuss how we caught him.

To add some lightening to this depressing thread (to me at least) I'm going to assume that catching him involved beautiful ladies on tropical beaches and dead drops in third world slums. And I bet Joe Don Baker was involved somehow...

 

[Roland55]

I think the real lesson here, and the most important, is this: On the internet, you don't know anyone.. You may think you know them, but you don't. Regardless of how much time, words, or emotions you may have shared with someone over the internet, you don't know anything about them. Misrepresentation and emotional manipulation aren't just dangers for teenagers on MySpace.

Very true.

So I've been 'scammed.' Big deal, I'll get over it ... in fact, I'm nearly over it now.

Too bad for Rev, though. I get the feeling he lived a significant portion of his life here. He made a bad mistake, and I hope he gets over it, himself.

Time for everyone to move on.

 

[Bront]

I think everyone needs to step back and breath a little. Rev was a valued member of our community for YEARS before he did this. Sure he may have tarnished his reputation in a huge way, but he shouldn't be perma-banned for one lapse of judgment.

If anything you should look at what he did in this way: He showed each and everyone of use how fragile this digital existance truly is. He made us realize that if something happened to one of us it would truly difficult for anyone to know because it is easy to fabricate lies on the internet. He also showed that having purely textual relationships over a digital network is foolish since it is difficult because how much information and disinformation exists. He tought us a valid and much needed lesson, so don't damn him because you didn't get the "harr-harr" or because you felt hurt/deceived by his cry for help.

If anyone on ENWorld deserves a second chance, it's Rev.

Two thoughts on this.

1) Enworld is "Grandma Friendly". Would you put your grandma though this?

2) This isn't the first time this has happened on the net, nor will it be the last, but it is truly unacceptable behavior. Whatever made him do this, simply accepting it and welcoming him back is not the right answer.

I've always thought of Rev as a nice guy, and because of that, I never thought twice about this being a hoax when there were clear signs that it was. Numerous people here, and even not here, spent countless hours worrying, praying, and trying to see what they could do. You could have easily had people send money thinking that might help. Heck, my grandmother has been praying about this because I mentioned it to her. Not to mention all the people who have had to deal with a flood of memories of when their loved ones were in the hospital or in a coma.

There is nothing acceptable about this behavior. I wish him the best of luck, and hope he learns from this, but letting him back in is simply patting him on the back and saying "It's ok, just don't do it again."

 

[Silverblade The Ench]

Meh, I suffer from a very real very bloody nasty chronic illness: the net, D&D and art, are large part of what keeps me going.

Rev' is either seriously screwed up and hurting (clinical depression sucks like hellfire, ugh and other mental woes must be horrible to live with), or he's a twisted, facile, pathetic SOB.
I don't get it, he was so nice. Why be a dick?
Either way I pity him

Cousin's kid was in a coma due ot diabetes which thank God and medical science, he came out of ok. no parent should have to go through that.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I have personal experience with the mentally ill. I have personal experience with family members who have fallen into such illnesses that they have been hospitalized until they died.

I had just joined up on these boards when Angelsboi passed. I didn't know him, but I saw what those who knew him went through.

In short- this wasn't funny to me.

Actions have consequences, and if Moderators are to be able to do their jobs effectively, we have to know that there are boundaries that we cannot cross.

I can find it in my heart to forgive Rev, but I won't forget. Motive doesn't really matter here. A permaban, IMHO, is justified, if for no other reason than to let everyone know that there are consequences to bad behavior. I will continue to pray for those who ask for help, but for those who are later determined to be frauds I have no sympathy.

 

[CapnZapp]

Well, I'm glad he's not currently in a coma. On the other hand, I'm also glad that he has been banned.

This pretty much sums up everything that needs to be said.

Let's get these threads unstickied and forget about the stupid thing.

 

[Maggan]

This is just my take on the situation, but I'm feeling a vibe of "let's bag on Relique" in this thread.

He is not the bad guy here.

/M

 

[Relique du Madde]

Hey, you know what? I felt bad for the guy (and his "fiancee") and now I feel like a sap. I have had two friends die young-- an ex-girlfriend at 22 and a former teammate at 38 leaving his wife and kids behind. I was also *in* a coma after a car accident, and know first-hand the kind of worry it put on my family, if only for a day.

So, please spare me your "second chance" nonsense. The guy is a liar. And worse, he is a liar who preys on others' compassion.

Two thoughts on this.

1) Enworld is "Grandma Friendly". Would you put your grandma though this?

2) This isn't the first time this has happened on the net, nor will it be the last, but it is truly unacceptable behavior. Whatever made him do this, simply accepting it and welcoming him back is not the right answer.

I've always thought of Rev as a nice guy, and because of that, I never thought twice about this being a hoax when there were clear signs that it was. Numerous people here, and even not here, spent countless hours worrying, praying, and trying to see what they could do. You could have easily had people send money thinking that might help. Heck, my grandmother has been praying about this because I mentioned it to her. Not to mention all the people who have had to deal with a flood of memories of when their loved ones were in the hospital or in a coma.

There is nothing acceptable about this behavior. I wish him the best of luck, and hope he learns from this, but letting him back in is simply patting him on the back and saying "It's ok, just don't do it again."

Don't lecture me. Don't crucify me. Sure, I was willing to give him a second chance. That was before the HIVE's side investigation revealed that a good deal of the people who posted there never existed. They were all alts. of Rev. A lot of us had our suspicions but we never wanted to investigate before last night..

Sadly, our little corner of ENWorld is the most devastated.

 

[Relique du Madde]

Hey, you know what? I felt bad for the guy (and his "fiancee") and now I feel like a sap. I have had two friends die young-- an ex-girlfriend at 22 and a former teammate at 38 leaving his wife and kids behind. I was also *in* a coma after a car accident, and know first-hand the kind of worry it put on my family, if only for a day.

So, please spare me your "second chance" nonsense. The guy is a liar. And worse, he is a liar who preys on others' compassion.

Two thoughts on this.

1) Enworld is "Grandma Friendly". Would you put your grandma though this?

2) This isn't the first time this has happened on the net, nor will it be the last, but it is truly unacceptable behavior. Whatever made him do this, simply accepting it and welcoming him back is not the right answer.

I've always thought of Rev as a nice guy, and because of that, I never thought twice about this being a hoax when there were clear signs that it was. Numerous people here, and even not here, spent countless hours worrying, praying, and trying to see what they could do. You could have easily had people send money thinking that might help. Heck, my grandmother has been praying about this because I mentioned it to her. Not to mention all the people who have had to deal with a flood of memories of when their loved ones were in the hospital or in a coma.

There is nothing acceptable about this behavior. I wish him the best of luck, and hope he learns from this, but letting him back in is simply patting him on the back and saying "It's ok, just don't do it again."

Don't lecture me. Don't crucify me. Sure, I was willing to give him a second chance. That was before the HIVE's side investigation revealed that a good deal of the people who posted there never existed. They were all alts. of Rev. A lot of us had our suspicions but we never wanted to investigate before last night..

Sadly, our little corner of ENWorld is the most devastated.

 

[frankthedm]

So, please spare me your "second chance" nonsense. The guy is a liar. And worse, he is a liar who preys on others' compassion.

I do think there is a chance you are attributing more malice than there is. However, I do fully agree with you about No Second Chance though. If he could post something like that, then it is a good thing he is not posting here anymore, regardless of why he did it.