About Reveille

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Aside from the implicit trust we all (to a greater or lesser degree) provide to those people that open up on a bulletin board, there are other reasons why people did not comment when the BS started to flow.

Not only do people not want to appear cynical in a time of apparent crisis and risk being flamed, but I for one was curious as to why "Mandy" wasn't living with her 'fiance' and why the 'fiance' was not considered 'family' for access to the intensive care ward. However, being in Australia, I had no idea about what the cultural/legal norms might have existed for wherever Rev lived and what his background might have been.

It's just speculation as to why making comment on these things is awkward.
 

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I for one was curious as to why "Mandy" wasn't living with her 'fiance' and why the 'fiance' was not considered 'family' for access to the intensive care ward. However, being in Australia, I had no idea about what the cultural/legal norms might have existed for wherever Rev lived and what his background might have been.

Well, in the USA, even though its the 21st Century, not everyone cohabits before marriage, and whether a fiance is considered "family" in an ICU is a matter of state law, AFAIK.
 

Well, in the USA, even though its the 21st Century, not everyone cohabits before marriage, and whether a fiance is considered "family" in an ICU is a matter of state law, AFAIK.
Actually its a HIPAA issue.

A fiance is not immediate family, and even then, a patient needs to explicitly allow for certain information to be available to family members.

For example, I can specifically request that my wife is not allowed to know what my lab results are.

If the patient is unable to make the distinction of who is eligible to receive information, then it defaults to immediate family (wife, parents, children) or whoever was added to their list of patient information access when you fill out all that paperwork when you visit the doctor. If THAT isn't available, they defer to the insurance information for who is entitled to medical information about the patient.

Important lesson. If you live with your fiance, or want him/her to have access to your medical data and be granted rights to access, you should make sure you update your HIPAA information with your primary physician, any specialists you visit, as well as your health insurance information.

Otherwise, (s)he is no different than any other dude(tte) on the street.
 


Thanks for the reminder- I've had to do HIPAA research for my father's medical practice before, but that detail had disappeared from my mental recall in the intervening years.

It is so true- you don't use it, you lose it.
 

I haven't had a response from him since he replied to my first email. I'm not sure if he didn't like what I said (the Revelation that his alts were discovered), if it was because yahoo sent the message to a totally different email address when I pressed reply, or if there is some other reason.

I'll have to resend it to his original email address to see.
 

Have you suggested that he prepare some kind of statement that he would be willing to have you post publicly? [snip] But, I know myself, and "because i wanted the attention" won't satisfy me...

As a purely personal opinion, I'd have to wonder if it would accomplish anything. He has clearly been manipulating people here for many months, his credibility is pretty much shot. How is anyone going to know the difference between a sincere statement, and one last attempt at manipulation?

It is possible that he really does need help - while we do like to make sure folks can get support here, we also recognize that the internet is not a qualified mental health professional. If things are that bad for him, he needs to talk to flesh-and-blood with training, not us.

Even sincerity would be manipulating people at this point.

The only thing that wins back credibility is a long history of honesty, which he'll have to start accumulating elsewhere. I can think of no more appropriate punishment for a serial liar than that.
 


I missed the last bits of drama in the original "Reveille's in a coma" thread that then led to this thread. I just caught up reading all 15 pages.

I'm not going to say I thought it was a fake when I first saw the original thread. I thought it had some odd factors, and I didn't post to it, though I thought about it, because when somebody's sick, that's what you do, you send support.

I thought it odd, that a fiance would think to visit a gaming forum when her SO is in the hospital. There's an 80% chance she is co-habitating with the SO, so she should have been able to use his account directly, rather than make a new account (who logs out on a secure PC?). I thought it odd, if she had to make an account, she'd know which site to goto, and what his screen-name was and spelled it right. It would have been more believable if she'd used HIS account.

Reveille pulled the same trick that jerks who betray the party do. He was already in the party, and decided to pull this. It's not hard to lie to somebody, when you're already inside the circle of trust. This is why 80% of all hack attempts are inside jobs, they're inside the circle of trust. Folks who believed him did the right thing. The only remaining thing to have done, would have been to ask, "what city, hosptital and room is Reveille in, so I can send flowers" to start locking facts in to the real world.

I keep using Reveille's full screen name for a reason. While it may be a military wake-up song, it's also the name of Texas A&M's mascot. Aggies are a fanatical lot, I work with a ton of them. One thing they got is a oath.
"An Aggie will not cheat, lie or steal, nor tolerate those who do."

Now there are cases of Aggie's gone bad, just like all people, but that oath means something to most of them. It's the same oath most military officers take during training, which makes sense given that A&M is also a military school.

That oath has an important clause to it. "...nor tolerate those who do." It doesn't mean hunt them down vigilante style. It means to not keep company with them. It means to leave their presence as soon as possible, or cast them out of your space. This is a pretty good justification of why Reveille is permanently banned. He didn't just lie once, for a joke, he lied a bunch. He's a liar, and that causes trouble, which we do not have to tolerate.

When the news of his fake coma broke, there were cries that this was a monsterous thing to do. I'd suggest, that as a single "prank", while the impact may be severe, the thinking behind the prank may not be monsterous, simply short-sighted. Drunk drivers do monsterous things, but for the most part, they're not even thinking of hurting anybody. Granted, later, the thread revealed there was a long chain of deception and manipulation going on. That's monsterous. The difference seems to have been lost on folks in the early phase of this thread.

For those who seek to contact Reveille, and get his side of things, I ask to what end? Reveille's a proven liar in this community. Worse, he's a proven manipulator and fabricator of heart-wrenching, sympathy garnering stories. If it was just the one joke, then you might get a valid explanation and apology. At this stage, given all that's been revealed about his activities, it would be foolish to trust a man who is known for lying to people to garner support.

The last order of business is sock puppet accounts. On every other forum I am on, users are limited to one account. There's no active search for them, but if they're found out, they're dealt with. For the most part, having an alt account and using it in a conversation is a ploy for decieving others, hiding your identity (such as it is in an already anonymous environment). The only time an alternate identity makes sense, is in role-playing. Most of the sub-forums on this site are for discussing role-playing. The only place alt accounts should be acceptable is within the ROLE-PLAYING in a game sub-forums.

To sum up, whether the mods make a rule or not, it should become a social standard that using alt accounts outside of a role-playing/story-telling space is deceptive, which violates the Aggie creed, which ought to be an American creed, because it's a good standard.
 


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