About Reveille
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Evil_Dead_Jedi
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Wow. So many thoughts. First, I want to thankt he Mods for letting us have this special place to post our venting and frustration.
I have to admit I was tricked up until the point of the Deity names being spoken post. But I didn't want to be a jerk and say anything I might regret later. But now it's open season. Part of me thinks what he did was hilarious because I love chaos and wrongness. But since chaos is what it is, I also feel very very betrayed. I am a volunteer firefighter, I've seen some nasty things. I've been through fire school and I am currently in EMT school, so the whole story intrigued me and I felt very drawn to it. It was the first set of posts I checked every time I got on the computer. When I read the very first post my heart sank because I know how people feel emotionally when things happen to loved ones.
I think what he did was completely wrong and I am glad he is banned. I know if he ever makes another account and it comes out it's him, people will treat him like crap and it will only get us in trouble. Quite frankly, and maybe it's part of just who I am and part of the things I've seen in the fire service, I really don't care if he has some mental issues and did this because he needs help. He went about it the wrong way and he did it for far too long to justify it.
However, even though it emotionally hurt many of us, myself included, I am proud of the community to have poured out their emotions like they did. It shows true character, especially when some of us were VERY suspicious about the whole thing (the deities thing especially).
The bottom line is (in my opinion) if he would have come clean after the first post it would be one thing, but to continually and purposefully attack our emotions is something completely different. He brought up too many bad emotions in many people. Not cool and unforgivable for me. Some people forgive very easy, but if you are like me and have been screwed over time and again in life by people you continually spend emotions on and forgive, forgiving doesn't come easy.
This has been very long winded, and I apologize for that. But I want to thank thank the Mods again for letting us speak about this so freely. And I want to end saying that I am glad Rev is not in a coma. Hopefully he gets the mental help he needs to get better. But if he doesn't, I don't really care as long as it doesn't affect our community any more.
I have to admit I was tricked up until the point of the Deity names being spoken post. But I didn't want to be a jerk and say anything I might regret later. But now it's open season. Part of me thinks what he did was hilarious because I love chaos and wrongness. But since chaos is what it is, I also feel very very betrayed. I am a volunteer firefighter, I've seen some nasty things. I've been through fire school and I am currently in EMT school, so the whole story intrigued me and I felt very drawn to it. It was the first set of posts I checked every time I got on the computer. When I read the very first post my heart sank because I know how people feel emotionally when things happen to loved ones.
I think what he did was completely wrong and I am glad he is banned. I know if he ever makes another account and it comes out it's him, people will treat him like crap and it will only get us in trouble. Quite frankly, and maybe it's part of just who I am and part of the things I've seen in the fire service, I really don't care if he has some mental issues and did this because he needs help. He went about it the wrong way and he did it for far too long to justify it.
However, even though it emotionally hurt many of us, myself included, I am proud of the community to have poured out their emotions like they did. It shows true character, especially when some of us were VERY suspicious about the whole thing (the deities thing especially).
The bottom line is (in my opinion) if he would have come clean after the first post it would be one thing, but to continually and purposefully attack our emotions is something completely different. He brought up too many bad emotions in many people. Not cool and unforgivable for me. Some people forgive very easy, but if you are like me and have been screwed over time and again in life by people you continually spend emotions on and forgive, forgiving doesn't come easy.
This has been very long winded, and I apologize for that. But I want to thank thank the Mods again for letting us speak about this so freely. And I want to end saying that I am glad Rev is not in a coma. Hopefully he gets the mental help he needs to get better. But if he doesn't, I don't really care as long as it doesn't affect our community any more.
Knightfall
World of Kulan DM
This.
Mark
CreativeMountainGames.com
Most of us who have gotten to know Fru/Rev have discovered at some point that he has some developmental difficulties and limitations. While this was extremely poor judgment on his part, this will not change the overall opinion I have that he is at his core a good human being who, perhaps through no fault of his own, makes some fairly poor decisions from time to time. I choose to forgive him for this, though I certainly can understand the moderators' call and anyone who feels hurt by the emotional ride they have taken because of his postings.
wedgeski
Adventurer
Rev (Reveille) not Rel. Let's not allow any reputations to be accidentally sullied here!
Keith Robinson
Explorer
Well, I fell for it hook, line and sinker. Oh well. More fool me. It was a really horrid thing to do, for sure, but I'm not gonna crucify the guy for it. Who knows what's going on inside his head? He's been banned and that's that.
Personally I also think the mods should delete the original thread, btw.
Personally I also think the mods should delete the original thread, btw.
WhimsyTheFae
Explorer
Don't worry, in this case that reputation was already sullied.
Ydars
Explorer
It is strange that I never felt emotionally involved with Reveille's situation, and for the life of me I cannot pin-point why. I read the entire thread and checked every day, but never felt like it was real somehow.
Something still isn't right though, so I have to ask: I am the only one thinking of Diaglo's "take-over" of the boards last year on April 1st?
I just mention this because people were talking earlier about how we should mention when our "spider sense" was tingling.
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I almost hope I am right because otherwise Reveille does need serious help, but somehow, I also hope I am wrong.
Either way, it looks like I am already not taking so much at face value on EN World.
Something still isn't right though, so I have to ask: I am the only one thinking of Diaglo's "take-over" of the boards last year on April 1st?
I just mention this because people were talking earlier about how we should mention when our "spider sense" was tingling.
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Admin edit: Fair enough. I mentioned this earlier in the thread -- the timing is just unfortunate. This isn't an April Fools prank. I wish it were. I'm not a big fan of drama, and we don't find this funny in the least. ~ Piratecat
-----I almost hope I am right because otherwise Reveille does need serious help, but somehow, I also hope I am wrong.
Either way, it looks like I am already not taking so much at face value on EN World.
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LightPhoenix
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I had a suspicion as well, but decided to take the post at face value. It's a shame, but it's not surprising; this sort of thing seems to happen a lot. Regardless of the help that is needed, I hope that he gets it.
Aberzanzorax
Hero
The calls to not permaban him anger me.
The calls to not permaban him anger me.
We know his actions, not his motives. At best it was a cry for help. Solution for that is GET HELP. At worst it was a joke. A monstrous, emotionally abusive joke.
In neither case are his actions tolerable.
In neither case will un-banning him help him in any way.
People can still support his getting help by emailing him, but allowing him to post would both enable him and make him a target.
I have my masters in clinical psychology. I'm one dissertation away from my doctorate. I have treated over 100 patients for a number of disorders from adjustment disorder and deprssion not otherwise specified up to more complex and difficult to treat disorders like schizophrenia and psychotic depression.
Ascribing the motivations for this simply to mental health problems is, quite frankly, an insult to the mentally ill. People have a lot of misconceptions and stigma about the mentally ill. Jumping to the conclusion that he has mental health problems is bigoted. It's very pervasive bigotry, so many aren't aware. It happens every time there is a tragedy, as people don't want to believe that a "normal" person could do something. "They must be crazy. If only they had gotten help." Well, yes, they may have needed help, but it may not have been mental health care that they needed.
We know he made a huge error in judgement. That is all we know. Please, I'm NOT asking you to demonize him. I'm just asking to stop "making up" reasons like "he must really have some psychiatric issues". You don't know that. Plenty of people here DO have psychiatric issues, and post perfectly cogent, kind, reasonable, and nonmanipulative posts. Let's keep those folks around.
The calls to not permaban him anger me.
We know his actions, not his motives. At best it was a cry for help. Solution for that is GET HELP. At worst it was a joke. A monstrous, emotionally abusive joke.
In neither case are his actions tolerable.
In neither case will un-banning him help him in any way.
People can still support his getting help by emailing him, but allowing him to post would both enable him and make him a target.
I have my masters in clinical psychology. I'm one dissertation away from my doctorate. I have treated over 100 patients for a number of disorders from adjustment disorder and deprssion not otherwise specified up to more complex and difficult to treat disorders like schizophrenia and psychotic depression.
Ascribing the motivations for this simply to mental health problems is, quite frankly, an insult to the mentally ill. People have a lot of misconceptions and stigma about the mentally ill. Jumping to the conclusion that he has mental health problems is bigoted. It's very pervasive bigotry, so many aren't aware. It happens every time there is a tragedy, as people don't want to believe that a "normal" person could do something. "They must be crazy. If only they had gotten help." Well, yes, they may have needed help, but it may not have been mental health care that they needed.
We know he made a huge error in judgement. That is all we know. Please, I'm NOT asking you to demonize him. I'm just asking to stop "making up" reasons like "he must really have some psychiatric issues". You don't know that. Plenty of people here DO have psychiatric issues, and post perfectly cogent, kind, reasonable, and nonmanipulative posts. Let's keep those folks around.
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