Adamantine and Incorporeal monsters

[sty]

I heard that adamantine wepons work just like magic.

It doesn´t stacks because it´s the same kind of bonus.

My question is, how about attacking an incorporeal creature, which requires a +1 magical wepon, would an adamantine long sword work to fight such creature?

Incorporeal: Can be harmed only by other incorporeal creatures, +1 or better magic weapons, or magic, with a 50% chance to ignore any damage from a corporeal source. Can pass through solid objects at will, and own attacks pass through armor. Always moves silently.

And how about creatures with damage reduction (ex. 5/+2)
Would a adamantine greatsword ignore this ability?

 

[kreynolds]

My question is, how about attacking an incorporeal creature, which requires a +1 magical wepon, would an adamantine long sword work to fight such creature?

Adamantine can't bypass DR because it is not the same type of magical bonus, so no, it wouldn't help against incorporeal creatures either.

(and here comes the s***storm. *sigh*)

 

[Ferret]

+1 MAGIC weapon and it would have to be +1 admintine(+2 in total)

 

[mikebr99]

Re: Re: Adamantine and Incorporeal monsters

Adamantine can't bypass DR because it is not the same type of magical bonus, so no, it wouldn't help against incorporeal creatures either.

(and here comes the s***storm. *sigh*)

I'll agree with you kr... adamantine's bonus isn't magical... it is a natural property of the metal.

[edit]but I can see the s**t coming also...

 

[Jondor_Battlehammer]

I heard that adamantine wepons work just like magic.

It doesn´t stacks because it´s the same kind of bonus.

My question is, how about attacking an incorporeal creature, which requires a +1 magical wepon, would an adamantine long sword work to fight such creature?

Incorporeal: Can be harmed only by other incorporeal creatures, +1 or better magic weapons, or magic, with a 50% chance to ignore any damage from a corporeal source. Can pass through solid objects at will, and own attacks pass through armor. Always moves silently.

And how about creatures with damage reduction (ex. 5/+2)
Would a adamantine greatsword ignore this ability?

You have it correct by the book. I can understand why some people might make a distinction between a natural bonus and a magical bonus, but they are both enhancments in the book and they do not stack. If it were more complicated than that, I would think something would have been said. I would add that you would still be subject to the 50% miss chance.

No storm yet, but there is a breeze is stirring.

 

[kreynolds]

Re: Re: Adamantine and Incorporeal monsters

You have it correct by the book.

I love it when people encourage misinformation.

 

[sty]

How about Dragons!??

Would a Red Dragon be able to hit an incorporeal creature!?
How can the dragon hit the incorporeal creature?

 

[Hejdun]

Would a Red Dragon be able to hit an incorporeal creature!?
How can the dragon hit the incorporeal creature?

Thought provoking question. By the rules, they can't with their melee attacks. Their natural weapons aren't considered magic weapons (anymore than adamantine weapons are considered magic), so they'd have to resort to breath weapons. Either that, or they could grab a magic weapon out of their hoard and kill it with that.

 

[Saeviomagy]

By my reading (admittedly of the SRD), an adamantine weapon CAN bypass DR, but it CANNOT harm an incorporeal creature. The table on DR specifies enhancement bonus and also states that it is USUALLY a magical weapon that meets the requirement, but makes no requirement that it must be, whereas the text for incorporeal specifies that the weapon must be magical.

 

[kreynolds]

By my reading (admittedly of the SRD), an adamantine weapon CAN bypass DR

Nope.

Can an adamantite shortsword bypass a vampire's 15/+1 DR?

No.
You need a magical enhancement bonus.

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