Adult: GUCK development forum III

[brevdravis]

How bout this for soft focus- Borrowing from VVrayven's Idea

How bout this,

All spells are Hard Focus, and there is a separate spell for soft focus that covers the whole situation.

Soft Focus Spell:

Enhance Sex
Alteration
Level: All Spellcasting Classes (1-9)
Components: V,S
Casting Time: 1 Action
Range: Touch
Target: Creature Touched
Duration: 1 Extended Round Per Level Spell was Memorized at.
Saving Throw: Will Negates
Spell Resistance: Yes

If the DM is using the Soft Focus rules, This spell may be used to represent the effects of magic upon sex. This spell may be memorized at any level, and adds an enhancement bonus of +2 per spell level to the Target's Prowess check. This represents the wizard using his magic to aid in sex via various magical and natural effects.

How's that? Nice and simple, and can represent anything that the player feels is appropriate. Since it's soft focus, detail is already left out, so making magic more obtuse seems about right.

Stuart

 

[brevdravis]

DOH!

Just realized the stupidity of Making the duration in Hard focus terms.

Change Duration to: 1 Encounter.

Somebody smack me with a herring....

Stuart

 

[Death By Surfeit]

Okay VVrayven, I've had a look at the clothing mechanics (alongside mundane equipment) and they seem brilliant. There are a few finicky suggestions I'd like to make, however...

A) I would recommend the Dexterity check be changed to an Escape Artist check to expose vital areas within the round. Perhaps up the DC accordingly.

B) Modifiers to Prowess checks through clothing should only apply to physical proficiencies. It might be easier to state that Caress checks can be made at the listed penalty, other physical proficiencies cannot be made, but mental proficiencies may be freely made. The exposing negates penalties to Caress and allows other physical proficiencies to be made at no penalty.

C) State what effect actual armour has. Basically, nothing can be done through it. 'Easy access' would be best kept as an armour upgrade that allows for a 'remove hastily' time (according to armour type) in order to expose vital areas (as above), during which time AC bonus is halved (round down). Other armour is bulky by nature - it must be enitrely removed before delicate areas are open.

D) Mundane equipment: Have one price for wooden dildoes, and it may be any size category (or half between) between Small and Large. State that these, or some similar item, are required to use the Toys proficiency. Ivory adds a +2 circumstance bonus for excellect tools, but should cost more than it presently does.

That just about summarises my thoughts. Apart from these sticklers, which could be easily addressed by a simple rephrasing, I think the mechanics are wonderful. Thanks for your work, VVrayven, and if you would like to prepare a spell selection by all means do so.

Brevdavis: Your work on the charts is excellent, but I am concerned with the viability of some of the results. Some seem just a little bizarre (seaweed?) and others seem overly focused (chainmail but not scale armour?). I also disapprove of categorising people be class, instead of by nature, as class is really quite impalpable. I'll post a writeup of assigning kinks as soon as possible.

 

[davethebrave371]

3.5?

You guys and gals rock my world! I didn't even know someone was doin' up a 3e version of the Carnal Knowledge netbook! Wow! That's awesome! You planning on making it 3.5 compatible? If so, when? Like...the winter? Next year? I've looked at the stuff on the site, and major kudos to you guys! The psionic stuff is rad.

 

[davethebrave371]

"PREGNANCY

Pregnancy is broken down into nine stages. For humans, each of these stages represents a month of pregnancy. At the beginning of each stage, the mother must test once each against Weakness, Awkwardness and Exhaustion. Failure represents the loss of a point of Strength, Dexterity or Constitution, respectively – this loss cannot be removed until after the pregnancy, when it recovers at the usual rate. The DC for these checks, and for spotting that the childbearer is pregnant, are given in the table below:

Check DC Spot DC
Stage I 10 75
Stage II 12 50
Stage III 14 35
Stage IV 16 25
Stage V 18 20
Stage VI 20 15
Stage VII 22 10
Stage VIII 24 5
Stage IX 26 0



Should the mother roll a natural 1 on her Weakness, Awkwardness or Exhaustion checks during the first stage, the embryo will not implant and pregnancy will be negated. Thereafter, it will only be when two Weakness, Awkwardness or Exhaustion checks have rolled 1’s in the same stage that the child will die.

I don't think this is such a good idea, especially when applied to commoners (which seems to be one of our big check and balance systems). Imagine Lucy the peasant, with a Str, Con and Dex of 10. She rolled lousy for her checks, and her saves are VERY low. At the end of the pregnancy, she has effective stats of 1. The Con drain affecting her hit points alone might kill her. God beware if she has a stat at 9, which means she could simply die from exhaustion (not labor mind you, just having the belly). Also, if we use any sort of Con modifiers for labor and delivery, we will assure that most of the mothers will simply die during childbirth. Granted, a pregnancy will change your life around, but it shouldn't be lethal just by itself.

As an alternate system, how about this: If you fail your check, you receive an armor check penalty equal to the stage you are in? A -9 in the late stages to the same skills affected by ACP sounds about right to me. Of course it would stack with any existing ACP the character might have, plus your armor might not fit anymore.

To simplify the things, starting at Stage 3, the check DC is 10+Stage. Early on, I don't think there would be much of a hindrance, so we could skip the first two stages."

What about -2 for each per trimester? Just a thought.

 

[brevdravis]

Thanks for the feedback

Thanks for the honest opinions.

The seaweed was the first unusual plant that came to mind..... (I live by the coast...)

Regarding the class issue: I understand where you're coming from there. If you don't mind, feel free to swap your nature ideas with my class Ideas, it was after all, just a first draft.

Regarding the armor: I figured that chainmail and scale were distinct enough.... (The whole fish look thang...) But I understand.

Do you want me to rewrite, or just switch some of it out?

Stuart

 

[Alzrius]

This may be just me, but I'm getting slightly confused on what part of the GUCK we're focusing on now.

DbS, you had a timetable for things to work on right? Where are we on that? We seem to be going all over the place now (which would be fine, but I got a mild rebuke last time I did that, so this time I'm checking first).

 

[Death By Surfeit]

Yes, it's available on page one of this thread. If I'd care to have a look...

*slap*

...I'll admit that it's terribly bad form to deviate from one's own agenda. Matters are, indeed, in somewhat of a disarray, partly due to delegating different tasks to different people in order to make the task easier, partly through my own failings, and partly from people bringing up new topics. Time to regain control.

Right.

DtB, thankyou for your praise and choosing to participate in the editing board. I'd like to answer your questions, but I wouldn't want to put a fixed date on the moment of completion, as this is a human effort. It would just encourage everyone to abstain until a week before, and then submit everything five years late.

Alzrius, no mild rebuke this time around. The topic of the forum has diffused somewhat, in line with people covering different areas (which is the only method possible with multiple contributors working at once). However, I will try to get things back on track.

Brevdravis, I will shortly submit a followup post containing my spin on the kinks table, based on your submissions; this way, you have a shot at criticising my work.

VVrayven, you may put your work on arranging spell lists (I'd leave descriptive text for now) on hold, unless you've got them in a ready-to-submit format. You mentioned you had some ideas on rules for pregnancy, and this (along with conception) is the new topic for the forum, in line with my objective list; they'd be best posted now.

Anabsterconian, I believe you had some conception rules that were briefly aired; feel free to repost them at this point. Same for all the lurkers, dwelling editors and peanut contributors present.

For reference everyone, the present portion of the objectives that concern us are as follows:

* Sexual alignment & kinks rules (mostly complete)
* Pregnancy & Conception (present majority topic for the board. Post suggestions and attitudes freely)
* Sexual diseases (will be addressed shortly)
* Spell lists (VVrayven working on as background project to my knowledge; we will come to it eventually)

There we are; hope this suffices as an explanation and re-organisation.

Cheers,

DbS

 

[VVrayven]

Hmmm. Right now I've been bogged down in Soft Focus calculations. Are those "off topic" right now? If so, just say the word. I do have a slight calculation problem that I have just found. Right now I am working on the new gratification table and the soft focus rules.

If a couple only goes until they both climax, you get one set of gratification results. If they go until someone passes out, you get another set of results. So, what should be consider as normal for the tables? In order words, a set of 5th level people can go until the female has a couple and the male has one climax. This will take about 10-20 minutes, everyone is happy, and this will be the "normal" encounter. However, our rules allow for the 5th level people to go at it straight for 4.5 hours and earn gratification totaling around 20-30. Now these are very different results and I'd have to say the the first one is far more common. SO.... What should our average be? This affects both the Soft Focus rules and the Hard Focus attitude shift chart.

I can start the new spell list project, but I cannot complete it without the full rules. But I'll work on it in the background for now. DbS: do your fixes to the clothing rules. I will agree with them all.

Just let me know what I can do to help more.

 

[brevdravis]

Regarding the kinks table

Thanks again for letting me know where we're going with things.

Question, the D100 list isn't done yet, so do you want me to do that one before I see your corrected table, or do you want me to wait on that?

With regards to the table that you're basing off my ideas, are you just going to change a few things that you think are wrong, or are you going to do a complete rewrite based off it?

Either way, just let me know so I can help.

Stuart