Adult: Guide to Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
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Lily Inverse
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Vax. . . . that was bad.
I liked it.
I liked it.
Shalewind
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Lurker stepping out...
I had some questions about the project and your team. Are you guys still looking for input from all sources? I just found this conversion a day or two ago; I thought the Naked Blades version was the original of the d20 UCK Guide.
Just some things I was wondering if you all had considered (which I'm sure you have because I've never seen such effort go into a project like this):
1. Is there any real use of the "horny" status condition? Can it be naturally evoked or is it just part of the chain Aroused - Horny - Peaked?
2. Most of the status conditions don't seem to be integrated into the spells and magical items (especially those that were around in the first UCK guide). For instance, ecstasy doesn't have any use of the status conditions. Should it?
3. Most of the Sex Tricks for NC adaptations have been removed from the first draft. I assume this is because they are going to be part of a supplement. However, creatures such as the recondite and tentacle master have been included (which surely must utilize these rules for NC).
4. This isn't a question just a point out (Sexual Threshold still is referenced in the current copy even though it has been removed from the new system).
5. Do you guys take open submission and suggestions?
Thanks for putting such good work into this, guys. I'm really impressed.
I had some questions about the project and your team. Are you guys still looking for input from all sources? I just found this conversion a day or two ago; I thought the Naked Blades version was the original of the d20 UCK Guide.
Just some things I was wondering if you all had considered (which I'm sure you have because I've never seen such effort go into a project like this):
1. Is there any real use of the "horny" status condition? Can it be naturally evoked or is it just part of the chain Aroused - Horny - Peaked?
2. Most of the status conditions don't seem to be integrated into the spells and magical items (especially those that were around in the first UCK guide). For instance, ecstasy doesn't have any use of the status conditions. Should it?
3. Most of the Sex Tricks for NC adaptations have been removed from the first draft. I assume this is because they are going to be part of a supplement. However, creatures such as the recondite and tentacle master have been included (which surely must utilize these rules for NC).
4. This isn't a question just a point out (Sexual Threshold still is referenced in the current copy even though it has been removed from the new system).
5. Do you guys take open submission and suggestions?
Thanks for putting such good work into this, guys. I'm really impressed.
This are not 100%official answers. I believe only kolvar can give them, so mail him if this answers aren't enough for you.
2&4. The guide is(/should) be currently in editing so this will most likely change(Averil could tell details).
3.The Recondite as well as the TentacleMaster will not be included in the guide, but will be in the hentai-supplement(So most likely the NC-Tricks will be found there as well).
5.Submissions are still taken, but they'll end mostlikely not in the Guide, but in one of it's supplements, or in a revised edition.
2&4. The guide is(/should) be currently in editing so this will most likely change(Averil could tell details).
3.The Recondite as well as the TentacleMaster will not be included in the guide, but will be in the hentai-supplement(So most likely the NC-Tricks will be found there as well).
5.Submissions are still taken, but they'll end mostlikely not in the Guide, but in one of it's supplements, or in a revised edition.
Shalewind
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Thanks for the reply. I would be interested in helping with the editing of the spell list is the responisble parties are open for aid. As is I think there are a lot of duplicates and other facotrs (such as not using conditions). Does any one know if Tanilen is still associated with the project?
Most people involved in the Project seem to be a bit inactive, in the most recent past, best would be really to amil them directly. Sorry that I can't say more, but I can't force them to look here, either 
You might wnat to take a look at the old threads which are located here(If yu don't find a specific email-address it's mostlikely located there as well):
Old Thread
http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9111
Older Thread:
http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=409
A poll about the Guide
http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11329
A much older but cofused thread:
http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=672
Everything else got lost with the old baords I belive.
You might wnat to take a look at the old threads which are located here(If yu don't find a specific email-address it's mostlikely located there as well):
Old Thread
http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9111
Older Thread:
http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=409
A poll about the Guide
http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11329
A much older but cofused thread:
http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=672
Everything else got lost with the old baords I belive.
Shalewind
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Thanks 2late.
I hope I'm not being presumptuous by writing this, but I thought I would try my hand at a help-out. I like the rules that are in place for sexual fatigue, but I think we need something a little more that will also be simple and allow further degrees of fatigue. Looking at the overland movement rules (traditionally the best place for fatigue rules) this is what I've come up with.
(From the Current Draft)
Sexual Fatigue: A sexual partner can only perform for so long before fatigue sets in. A character can have sex for a number of minutes equal to his Constitution score. After that has been reached, he must then make Fortitude save of increasing difficulty to continue. The save begins at DC 10 and increases by 1 every round thereafter. Each previous orgasm that day adds an additional 2 to the save's DC. If he fails the save, the character must stop and rest for at least 30 minutes before attempting again, during which time he is considered Fatigued.
Now, according to the DMG, Fatigue is listed as:
"Fatigued: Characters who are fatigued cannot run or charge and suffer an effective penalty of -2 to Strength and Dexterity. A fatigued character becomes exhausted by doing something else that would normally cause fatigue. After 8 hours of complete rest, fatigued characters are no longer fatigued."
Normal fatigue takes 8 hours to recover from. So either we have a special rule (which is what the above is) that uses a condition "like" fatigue, or we should insert a "sexual fatigue" condition. Personally I think we should just change the last sentence to include the words "Unlike normal Fatigue... ...will pass in 30 minutes as opposed to 8 hours).
One other note (on the personal side) It's a little unfair of have a -2 penalty to the girl for each orgasm she has. If she is a typical "real-life" multiple orgasmic gal, she'd never make her first save. (Well, perhaps). I think that penalty should be changed for women to a -1 for each orgasm or maybe even -1 for every two. (But that is just me).
Further, I say you let em continue to have sex even while fatigued (they will have a stat penalty after all). Maybe even include a -2 penalty to all Sexual Prowess checks while fatigued. I mean if you are sexually delirious, do you really think you are going to stop just because you are tired? And that leads us to:
Sexual Exhaustion: If a partner continues to have sex while fatigued he runs the risk of becoming exhausted. A character can have sex while fatigued for a number of minutes equal to his Constitution score. After that has been reached, he must then make a Fortitude save of increasing difficulty to continue. The save begins at DC 10 and increases by 2 every round thereafter. Each previous orgasm that day adds an additional 2 to the save's DC. If he fails the save, the character must stop and rest for at least an hour before attempting again, during which time he is considered Exhausted. If he does rest for an hour, he becomes only fatigued.
From the DMG:
"Exhausted: Characters who are exhausted move at half normal speed and suffer an effective penalty of -6 to Strength and Dexterity. A fatigued character becomes exhausted by doing something else that would normally cause fatigue. After 1 hour of complete rest, exhausted characters become fatigued."
Okay, now here is where it gets interesting. People should be able to go for so long that they just drop from exhaustion. (Hey, that sounds like fun doesn't it?). So, following the overland movement examples of forced march and hustling, I give you:
Sexually Comatose: If a partner continues to have sex while exhausted he runs the risk of passing out cold. Each minute a character has sex while exhausted, he must make a Constitution check (DC 10 + 1 per previous minute of sex while exhausted). If the check fails, the character takes 1d6 points of subdual damage. A character can't recover this subdual damage until he stops and has rested at least four hours. It's possible for a character to
into unconsciousness by pushing himself to hard.
Well, that's it. Let me know what everyone thinks.
I hope I'm not being presumptuous by writing this, but I thought I would try my hand at a help-out. I like the rules that are in place for sexual fatigue, but I think we need something a little more that will also be simple and allow further degrees of fatigue. Looking at the overland movement rules (traditionally the best place for fatigue rules) this is what I've come up with.
(From the Current Draft)
Sexual Fatigue: A sexual partner can only perform for so long before fatigue sets in. A character can have sex for a number of minutes equal to his Constitution score. After that has been reached, he must then make Fortitude save of increasing difficulty to continue. The save begins at DC 10 and increases by 1 every round thereafter. Each previous orgasm that day adds an additional 2 to the save's DC. If he fails the save, the character must stop and rest for at least 30 minutes before attempting again, during which time he is considered Fatigued.
Now, according to the DMG, Fatigue is listed as:
"Fatigued: Characters who are fatigued cannot run or charge and suffer an effective penalty of -2 to Strength and Dexterity. A fatigued character becomes exhausted by doing something else that would normally cause fatigue. After 8 hours of complete rest, fatigued characters are no longer fatigued."
Normal fatigue takes 8 hours to recover from. So either we have a special rule (which is what the above is) that uses a condition "like" fatigue, or we should insert a "sexual fatigue" condition. Personally I think we should just change the last sentence to include the words "Unlike normal Fatigue... ...will pass in 30 minutes as opposed to 8 hours).
One other note (on the personal side) It's a little unfair of have a -2 penalty to the girl for each orgasm she has. If she is a typical "real-life" multiple orgasmic gal, she'd never make her first save. (Well, perhaps). I think that penalty should be changed for women to a -1 for each orgasm or maybe even -1 for every two. (But that is just me).
Further, I say you let em continue to have sex even while fatigued (they will have a stat penalty after all). Maybe even include a -2 penalty to all Sexual Prowess checks while fatigued. I mean if you are sexually delirious, do you really think you are going to stop just because you are tired? And that leads us to:
Sexual Exhaustion: If a partner continues to have sex while fatigued he runs the risk of becoming exhausted. A character can have sex while fatigued for a number of minutes equal to his Constitution score. After that has been reached, he must then make a Fortitude save of increasing difficulty to continue. The save begins at DC 10 and increases by 2 every round thereafter. Each previous orgasm that day adds an additional 2 to the save's DC. If he fails the save, the character must stop and rest for at least an hour before attempting again, during which time he is considered Exhausted. If he does rest for an hour, he becomes only fatigued.
From the DMG:
"Exhausted: Characters who are exhausted move at half normal speed and suffer an effective penalty of -6 to Strength and Dexterity. A fatigued character becomes exhausted by doing something else that would normally cause fatigue. After 1 hour of complete rest, exhausted characters become fatigued."
Okay, now here is where it gets interesting. People should be able to go for so long that they just drop from exhaustion. (Hey, that sounds like fun doesn't it?). So, following the overland movement examples of forced march and hustling, I give you:
Sexually Comatose: If a partner continues to have sex while exhausted he runs the risk of passing out cold. Each minute a character has sex while exhausted, he must make a Constitution check (DC 10 + 1 per previous minute of sex while exhausted). If the check fails, the character takes 1d6 points of subdual damage. A character can't recover this subdual damage until he stops and has rested at least four hours. It's possible for a character to
into unconsciousness by pushing himself to hard.Well, that's it. Let me know what everyone thinks.
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Yes. . .i am still involved with project, though mostly right now only through Lilly (we do some playtesting of the rules together).
I did get your e-mail regarding the exhaustion rules. . . .for me, i dont really play with any set of rules, so i guess it does not matter so much to me which are used.
I did find the rules for "little deaths" interesting, however. If you play using the rules for advantages and disadvantages, i would definately make this one of them. At that point, any time they then fail a arousal check with a critical failure (1), then they need to make a fort save vs DC20 or suffer the effects you mentioned.
As for the rules for horny, aroused, etc. . .yes, they were intended to make things more uniform for spell efects, magic items, etc. . . .but then i never got around to writing any spells myself and a majority of the spells, as you pointed out, predate the 3rd edition anyways. Still, they are there for anyone who wants to used them. My freind Jashin is using the quite effectively for some magic items he created based on his Wraith Spider stories, and hopefully someday he will be finished with them and submit them to the hentai supplement.
As for what I am working on now. . .it more NC rules that will be put into said hentai supplement. Speaking of which, i need some OGL help here. . .I have Raven Loft campaign book, and it has rules on madness, fear, and horror saves that I am adapting for my own rules, but no where in the copy of the book i have is there the required OGL license, so i have no idea if the stuff i want to use is OGL or is protected by them as product identity.. . .any answers out there for me?
Tan
I did get your e-mail regarding the exhaustion rules. . . .for me, i dont really play with any set of rules, so i guess it does not matter so much to me which are used.
I did find the rules for "little deaths" interesting, however. If you play using the rules for advantages and disadvantages, i would definately make this one of them. At that point, any time they then fail a arousal check with a critical failure (1), then they need to make a fort save vs DC20 or suffer the effects you mentioned.
As for the rules for horny, aroused, etc. . .yes, they were intended to make things more uniform for spell efects, magic items, etc. . . .but then i never got around to writing any spells myself and a majority of the spells, as you pointed out, predate the 3rd edition anyways. Still, they are there for anyone who wants to used them. My freind Jashin is using the quite effectively for some magic items he created based on his Wraith Spider stories, and hopefully someday he will be finished with them and submit them to the hentai supplement.
As for what I am working on now. . .it more NC rules that will be put into said hentai supplement. Speaking of which, i need some OGL help here. . .I have Raven Loft campaign book, and it has rules on madness, fear, and horror saves that I am adapting for my own rules, but no where in the copy of the book i have is there the required OGL license, so i have no idea if the stuff i want to use is OGL or is protected by them as product identity.. . .any answers out there for me?
Tan
