AEG Loses Stargate SG-1!!!

[dpmcalister]

let me get this straight, you don't think eden's proven track record on keeping the licensed products (buffy since august of 2002 for example) and AEGs losing license property is valid consideration in a discussion of how well they will be expected to maintain and support a new licensed product?

Thats interesting.

No, I don't think it's fair that you attempt to compare a current licenced line with one that that no longer is. IMHO it appears that you're attempting to score points, hence my reply in kind.

and if eden had produced two dozen more products for buffy, and provided free candy with each product, and if a lot of other things that did not happen had ever happened... the comparisons might be different.

But they didn't, and the comparison aren't. I fail to see your point here.

not a licensed product.
have you looked at how many games eden has put out?
i didn't even include angel in my comparison, but you want to include all the spycraft spalt.

I was matching one product line with another (Buffy with Spycraft). I didn't include all Spycraft products (so no Stargate SG-1 included, nor any of the Powered by Spycraft products). If you want to include every product published by each gaming company go ahead, but that's not the point I was attempting to make.

a loyal aeg fan, thats for sure.

As you are for Eden - as you proved with your very first post in the thread!

well, if in order to have aeg win out we have to compare a single eden licensed product to all the licensed and non-licensed products aeg produced, that says something.

I compared Buffy to two separate lines, in two different ways. I didn't compare Buffy to both Spycraft and Stargate SG-1 at the same time. It might help if you re-read what I've previously written.

I said in response to comments using buffy as an example supporting eden lack of support on licensed product, that IF eden produces as much as they did for buffy, then we will have more eden stargate products out than aeg stargate products out.

And my point is that, given Eden's track record, using Buffy as the example, then, given the same 18 month period, Eden would not have produced as many Stargate products than AEG!

thats not a prediction.

None of us can make accurate predictions, it's all theories based on track records.

I have no clue. but, given they have produced more product for buffy and have kept the license for longer and have more product on the way... i look at "eden's buffy history" and just don't see doom and gloom for stargate development by comparison with AEG.

if you do, thats cool!

I never said I did. I did say that I didn't think Eden would produce as many products as AEG in the same time period.

 

[Ranger REG]

Just to throw some more chum in the water, consider that Eden with bizarro has been developing a game called odyssey prime for use with d20 modern that was described on their site as "stargate meets armaggedon" iirc and that product has been on hold now since the license thing went up. i think it was last slated for november 2004.

so, its certainly not a guarantee that eden would produce a unisystem version of stargate instead of a d20 version.

There is strong indication that like Atlas Games, Eden Studio is opting out of publishing d20. Truly sad, considering I have praised their Fields of Blood book above all other mass combat & realm management rules supplements.

 

[Crothian]

None of us can make predictions, it's all theories based on track records.

Anyone can make a prediction, and I have in this very thread.

 

[dpmcalister]

Anyone can make a prediction, and I have in this very thread.

Sorry, missed a word out, meant to say "none of us can make accurate predictions" Thanks.

 

[Crothian]

Sorry, missed a word out, meant to say "none of us can make accurate predictions" Thanks.

Well, until the events actually happen we won't know if they are accurate.

 

[dpmcalister]

That's the point I was trying to make.

 

[JPL]

So...

Uhmm...

That Samantha Carter is a honey, isn't she?

With all the science and the uniform and such?

 

[swrushing]

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Except it wasn't an average was it. It was more like the four books (you can hardly call the GM Screen and Character Journal's book IMHO), by May 03, about one every couple of months good support then nothing for ages, and delay after delay on Welcome to Sunnydale with it being pushed back and back, and you still can't actually buy it. Yet you are counting it, plus a revised rulebook and two flyers as full books.

if you look at my original count you will see i did separate the out vs preorder and i did note that only four were books. The next guy chose to combine all them together and i just added in some dates to his figures.

You only count 5 Stargate books (at least they are all books, not pamplets or vapourware), yet ignore Season 3 which would be published by now if AEG still had the license, and has had its release schedule on hold during negociations. Previous to that AEG was doing about 1 book every other month.

I thin if i start adding ifs to the eden tree too i can get their book count up too.

Simply put, its no longer a case of "if aeg held the license." That was a valid consideration as little as maybe a month ago, but its not now.

they didn't. let it go. move on.

No a difference of a pretty regular every few months release schedule compared to an erratic, release schedule with a promise of a book to appear some time in the future, that seems to get pushed back and back.

cool. i doubt i can shake your opinion with fact but if eden produces as many products for stargate as they have already released for buffy, the number of stargate products by eden on the shelf will be more than the number of aeg stargate products on the shelf.

if they follow the pattern you think they will, we will get these five products in rather short order.

Little disclaimer: I actually think the Buffy books produced by Eden are great products, I love thier All Flesh Must Be Eaten and thier Conspiracy X lines. I'm sure they will actually do a good job with Stargate (if they get it), at least at the start.

Ao we are not so much different in our views after all.

 

[JPL]

...because I think it's like an Agent Scully kinda thing, where she looks damn good in unflattering clothes and digs physics.

 

[Crothian]

...because I think it's like an Agent Scully kinda thing, where she looks damn good in unflattering clothes and digs physics.

Anmd she will be leaving the show......