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Festivus
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Often times those givaways are an alternate paint job. It could be that the pictures are the real thing. I didnt get the fig so I can't compare.
Festivus
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More variety in the uncommons. Last set I ended up with 2 of half the uncommons, and 4 of every common plus a few straggler single uncommons from a single case.
Foundry of Decay
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Hmm, overall I would say I'm vastly underwhelmed by this set.
Admittedly I no longer buy these miniatures (for various reasons I won't go into here). I tend to draw my own critters and print them out as 2d miniatures now, especially since its very rare that my group uses typical races for our games, and because I'm a hopeless tinkerer and throw a lot of custom enemies at the group.
But there are a few things that bother me about this set that I've noticed becoming more common. Its the 'massive head/stubby legs' syndrome.
The Chain Golem, Degenerate cultist, Shock Troop Devil, and Yuan-ti are the worst offenders in this set. Overly large heads with bodies that look as if they were fashioned out of play-doh.
I'm also disappointed that the huges don't have more detail to them. When you are sculpting at that size, you have far more freedom than you do when sculpting the smaller miniatures. Worse, mistakes in anatomy and detail become far more noticeable. The Red Dragon, Treant and Guulvorg are prime examples of simply bad artistry. The White Dragon is pretty decent however, as well as the fire titan. Strangely you can buy McFarlane dragons with far superior sculpting and paint-jobs on them for cheaper than an after market dragon from these sets would be. I've just never been wowwed by the huge miniatures produced in any of these sets. That is just personal opinion though.
I will chime in with my distaste for the Galeb Duhr, And Yuan-ti.. And the Carrion Crawler now that I look at it. Outside of using a material, though admittedly very durable, that just can't produce good detail is really starting to make me glad that Reaper is still around with their metal miniatures.
Admittedly I no longer buy these miniatures (for various reasons I won't go into here). I tend to draw my own critters and print them out as 2d miniatures now, especially since its very rare that my group uses typical races for our games, and because I'm a hopeless tinkerer and throw a lot of custom enemies at the group.
But there are a few things that bother me about this set that I've noticed becoming more common. Its the 'massive head/stubby legs' syndrome.
The Chain Golem, Degenerate cultist, Shock Troop Devil, and Yuan-ti are the worst offenders in this set. Overly large heads with bodies that look as if they were fashioned out of play-doh.
I'm also disappointed that the huges don't have more detail to them. When you are sculpting at that size, you have far more freedom than you do when sculpting the smaller miniatures. Worse, mistakes in anatomy and detail become far more noticeable. The Red Dragon, Treant and Guulvorg are prime examples of simply bad artistry. The White Dragon is pretty decent however, as well as the fire titan. Strangely you can buy McFarlane dragons with far superior sculpting and paint-jobs on them for cheaper than an after market dragon from these sets would be. I've just never been wowwed by the huge miniatures produced in any of these sets. That is just personal opinion though.
I will chime in with my distaste for the Galeb Duhr, And Yuan-ti.. And the Carrion Crawler now that I look at it. Outside of using a material, though admittedly very durable, that just can't produce good detail is really starting to make me glad that Reaper is still around with their metal miniatures.
Jack99
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How many packs in a case? 6? 8? It is 12 when it is a non-huge set, right?
Seriously. The dragons, carrion crawler, and owlbear look silly. (And why is does the fire giant look bigger than the storm giant?) There are very few decent, useful figures here, if any—only the dragonborn, and I'm not going to waste money in the hope of getting one of those. I'm very, very disappointed.
Festivus
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6 packs per huge case I believe.
Edit: Yes, 6 -->
http://www.gameoutfitter.com/items/miniature-games/d-d-miniatures/against-the-giants/list.htm
I'm surprised nobody mentioned yet, how poor the paint job on the storm giant looks. This has to be the worst paint job on a rare, I've ever seen.
The Red Dragon isn't much better. Yes, it's ... red. Looks like it was dipped in a pot of paint rather than painted.
Many of these minis look unfinished, as if they stopped painting them half-way through.
I also dislike the excessive use of undiluted primary colours. This isn't Lego or Playmobil...
There aren't too many minis in this set I'm completely happy with (about a third). And there are about as many that are so ugly, they're best locked away in a basement cupboard...
And I totally hate that they continue to have almost no Large uncommons any more. The last set had just two (Dire Wolf and Bulette), this has just one: This incredibly ugly Devil thing.
And not including an uncommon dragonborn is simply a bad decision. I guess I'll keep using the Redspawn Arcaniss and the Greenspawn Zealot. I'm not as bothered about the tiefling, it's ugly anyway. I much prefer the old style tieflings.
I also don't understand why we get a slightly darker, worse looking clone of the silver dragon from the last set. I know, that dragons always sell, but c'mon!
Anyway, all complaining aside, I'm still going to share a case with a friend. I hope I'll get a few of the better-looking ones, like the Earth Titan or at least useful ones like the Cyclone Thingy.
When the last set came out, I was denying that the quality went down. With this set I'm no longer sure. There's a very small sliver of hope that some minis look better in the real.
The Red Dragon isn't much better. Yes, it's ... red. Looks like it was dipped in a pot of paint rather than painted.
Many of these minis look unfinished, as if they stopped painting them half-way through.
I also dislike the excessive use of undiluted primary colours. This isn't Lego or Playmobil...
There aren't too many minis in this set I'm completely happy with (about a third). And there are about as many that are so ugly, they're best locked away in a basement cupboard...
And I totally hate that they continue to have almost no Large uncommons any more. The last set had just two (Dire Wolf and Bulette), this has just one: This incredibly ugly Devil thing.
And not including an uncommon dragonborn is simply a bad decision. I guess I'll keep using the Redspawn Arcaniss and the Greenspawn Zealot. I'm not as bothered about the tiefling, it's ugly anyway. I much prefer the old style tieflings.
I also don't understand why we get a slightly darker, worse looking clone of the silver dragon from the last set. I know, that dragons always sell, but c'mon!
Anyway, all complaining aside, I'm still going to share a case with a friend. I hope I'll get a few of the better-looking ones, like the Earth Titan or at least useful ones like the Cyclone Thingy.
When the last set came out, I was denying that the quality went down. With this set I'm no longer sure. There's a very small sliver of hope that some minis look better in the real.
Jeff Wilder
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I just don't understand why the quality of the minis had gone downhill so much. Generally speaking, paint and sculpt quality got good with Giants of Legend and incrementally rose until War Drums, with which set paint quality plummeted to the point where WotC actually bowed to the outcry and promised not to use paint masters in their previews any longer.
The next three sets were improvements on War Drums, though arguably not reaching the quality of sets pre-War Drums. Then, with Desert of Desolation ... ugh. Scaling got (even) worse, the minis lost significant detail in the sculpts (though I, possibly in the minority, liked some of the odder poses) and what is with the shiny, gloppy, paints, and severe curtailing of paint-steps?
I'm also unhappy about the choices they've made for inclusion. Why another Huge red dragon, before giving us a Huge green? (Or even a Huge black with no rider?) Why yet another fire giant? Here we are on yet our third owlbear. Blockroot Treant? Enormous Carrion Crawler? A third "inhuman angel" in as many sets? Are you kidding me? Why so many crappy Medium Rares?
WotC lost a fair amount of my DDM business (say, 25 percent) because I don't like the new version of the skirmish game, but I've stopped collecting full sets because of the quality. (And if you folks knew how OCD a collector I am, you'd know that's saying something.)
Oh, and for those of you wondering about tiefling and dragonborn minis ... you'll be able to get them -- Rare or not -- for $2 each. Maybe less.
The next three sets were improvements on War Drums, though arguably not reaching the quality of sets pre-War Drums. Then, with Desert of Desolation ... ugh. Scaling got (even) worse, the minis lost significant detail in the sculpts (though I, possibly in the minority, liked some of the odder poses) and what is with the shiny, gloppy, paints, and severe curtailing of paint-steps?
I'm also unhappy about the choices they've made for inclusion. Why another Huge red dragon, before giving us a Huge green? (Or even a Huge black with no rider?) Why yet another fire giant? Here we are on yet our third owlbear. Blockroot Treant? Enormous Carrion Crawler? A third "inhuman angel" in as many sets? Are you kidding me? Why so many crappy Medium Rares?
WotC lost a fair amount of my DDM business (say, 25 percent) because I don't like the new version of the skirmish game, but I've stopped collecting full sets because of the quality. (And if you folks knew how OCD a collector I am, you'd know that's saying something.)
Oh, and for those of you wondering about tiefling and dragonborn minis ... you'll be able to get them -- Rare or not -- for $2 each. Maybe less.
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